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« Reply #750 on: February 17, 2013, 02:21:08 PM » |
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Would love to pick up a big man (please, no C that are currently out and have been hurt 5 of the last 6 seasons)
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« Reply #751 on: February 17, 2013, 02:21:14 PM » |
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Portland is listening to offers on Skills Champ Lillard. PM Rebus and Lucky.
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« Reply #752 on: February 17, 2013, 02:22:18 PM » |
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You know who would be great with Holiday and Smith?
Andrew Bynum. Smith is a bit of a stretch 4, and elite defensively for the position, Bynum also an elite defender and a flat-out banger. Match made in heaven.
Somebody regrets the Bynum trade.
If opposing GMs are smart, they will make you pay for your mistake. (5 major injuries in the past 6 seasons.)
I wasn't going to offer Bynum to the sixers, they don't have the pieces for him, silly.
I don't regret the Bynum trade at all, other than I'm going to hate the draft Monday and Tuesday.
Had the opportunity to get an elite player to pair next to Kyrie Irving for what was fundamentally a 3rd and 4th round pick. You take that when you get it.
I can understand this.
I had two elite players but they don't play well together so I decided one had to go.
That I got rid of the older player with the obnoxious contract and still was able to pick up a top 4 PG, save $10 million and increase my late 4th rounder to a mid 3rd rounder was a bonus in my eyes, because as you said, I still wanted to add another elite player and was able to. At this stage, when you don't have a top 6-7 pick in the draft, that is huge.
I'd say we both should be happy with our deal. I'm thrilled to have Kobe and Lopez, while still having a top 15 pick.
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« Reply #753 on: February 17, 2013, 02:23:16 PM » |
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Can a player who likely will not play this year be considered elite? If I draft Hakeem Olajuwon and claim he's still elite, does it make it so?
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« Reply #754 on: February 17, 2013, 02:23:33 PM » |
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Second of all, I'm just picking up the beat where others have left off. I'm not the first guy to say he's the second best center in basketball.
Tell me, what are Hollinger's efficiency stats for Bynum this season? 
(In fantasy land, I do love the idea of Bynum and Irving together. Of course, in fantasy land I love the idea of a dominant Greg Oden and Shaun Livingston together, too.)
According to Hollinger's stats, one Brook Lopez is rated out as the best center this year. 
Noticed that. Punched myself in the face a few times, but I didn't wake up. Must be real?
If it says it on the internet it must be true. Funny, I always thought the best centers in the league could average more than 7 rebounds a game though
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« Reply #755 on: February 17, 2013, 02:24:45 PM » |
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Would love to pick up a big man (please, no C that are currently out and have been hurt 5 of the last 6 seasons)
He's talking to you IP
Haha, yeah. I figured. The fact that he wasn't talking about a coach-killing lockerroom malcontent PG who has underperformed a max contact on a level not seen since Allan Houston was a huge tipoff.
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« Reply #756 on: February 17, 2013, 02:25:38 PM » |
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I think what will be easiest for Roy, and the other commishes who might have to approve trades is send in confirmations for trades like this:
Lakers send Howard and Williams($36.72 million)
Cleveland sends Bynum and Irving($22.27 million)
Lakers salary $22.27 million...cap $99.3 million
Cleveland salary $40.61 million...cap $70.1 million
That way both GMs can check each others numbers and the likelihood of a mistake lessens.
I'd agree the onus should absolutely be on the individual GM's to keep track of their own cap number. Seems kind of important for this excercise.
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« Reply #757 on: February 17, 2013, 02:26:14 PM » |
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Would love to pick up a big man (please, no C that are currently out and have been hurt 5 of the last 6 seasons)
He's talking to you IP
Haha, yeah. I figured. The fact that he wasn't talking about a coach-killing lockerroom malcontent PG who has underperformed a max contact on a level not seen since Allan Houston was a huge tipoff.
I probably don't need one of those either.
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« Reply #758 on: February 17, 2013, 02:26:56 PM » |
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Willing to trade 1.1 for a player and picks or to move back a little bit. I really have to be overwhelmed to deal 1.1 though.
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SUNS Pick 2: Coach: Doug Collins PG: Ricky Rubio(3.5) CJ Watson(.992) SG: Dwyane Wade(17.1) Alonzo Gee(3.5) SF: DeMar Derozan(3.34) Dorell Wright(4.1) Jae Crowder(.6) PF: Gerald Wallace(9.88) Matt Bonner(3.67) Al Harrington(6.6) C: Brook Lopez(13.67) Chris Andersen(.854) Cap used: 67.8 Total: 70.3
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« Reply #759 on: February 17, 2013, 02:26:58 PM » |
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You know who would be great with Holiday and Smith?
Andrew Bynum. Smith is a bit of a stretch 4, and elite defensively for the position, Bynum also an elite defender and a flat-out banger. Match made in heaven.
Somebody regrets the Bynum trade.
If opposing GMs are smart, they will make you pay for your mistake. (5 major injuries in the past 6 seasons.)
I wasn't going to offer Bynum to the sixers, they don't have the pieces for him, silly.
I don't regret the Bynum trade at all, other than I'm going to hate the draft Monday and Tuesday.
Had the opportunity to get an elite player to pair next to Kyrie Irving for what was fundamentally a 3rd and 4th round pick. You take that when you get it.
I can understand this.
I had two elite players but they don't play well together so I decided one had to go.
That I got rid of the older player with the obnoxious contract and still was able to pick up a top 4 PG, save $10 million and increase my late 4th rounder to a mid 3rd rounder was a bonus in my eyes, because as you said, I still wanted to add another elite player and was able to. At this stage, when you don't have a top 6-7 pick in the draft, that is huge.
I'd say we both should be happy with our deal.
I'm thrilled to have Kobe and Lopez, while still having a top 15 pick.
I agree. It worked out well for both of us. I just couldn't have Kobe and Dwight on the same team. Someone had to go and I was going to get my best offers early, not late, so I pulled the trigger. Lopez is actually a good match with Kobe.
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« Reply #760 on: February 17, 2013, 02:30:11 PM » |
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If people need to shed salaries, other people could hold out for a better offer so its really important to stay under
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« Reply #761 on: February 17, 2013, 02:30:18 PM » |
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Would love to pick up a big man (please, no C that are currently out and have been hurt 5 of the last 6 seasons)
He's talking to you IP
Haha, yeah. I figured. The fact that he wasn't talking about a coach-killing lockerroom malcontent PG who has underperformed a max contact on a level not seen since Allan Houston was a huge tipoff.
Well Williams is a coach killing malcontent but I don't know about under performing a max contract to the extent you mentioned. Eddy Curry, Gilbert Arenas, Rasheed Lewis might fit better into that argument.
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« Reply #762 on: February 17, 2013, 02:30:51 PM » |
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Funny, I always thought the best centers in the league could average more than 7 rebounds a game though
You know, I'd normally agree with you. But, between the Nets quiet success this year, Lopez's efficiency...he's not looking so bad.
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« Reply #763 on: February 17, 2013, 02:33:45 PM » |
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Would love to pick up a big man (please, no C that are currently out and have been hurt 5 of the last 6 seasons)
He's talking to you IP
Haha, yeah. I figured. The fact that he wasn't talking about a coach-killing lockerroom malcontent PG who has underperformed a max contact on a level not seen since Allan Houston was a huge tipoff.
Well Williams is a coach killing malcontent but I don't know about under performing a max contract to the extent you mentioned. Eddy Curry, Gilbert Arenas, Rasheed Lewis might fit better into that argument.
Williams isnt playing so great this year
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« Reply #764 on: February 17, 2013, 02:34:47 PM » |
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I'm guessing Kyrie must have the best production (however you want to quantify that) per dollar this season.
I think I've come to accept he is already a near super-star in this league. I just can't continue to ignore the obvious.
Just really ticked me off how little he gave my Dukies his one season there.
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