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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #615 on: February 16, 2013, 01:45:23 AM »

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Rumor: Andrew Bynum might be heading to New York which team it is has not been confirmed
Source: Bynum was shipped out of town for a 1st and two 4th round picks

Something big must be in the works.  There's only one other New York team besides me, and I'm the only one that can that offer two 4ths at the moment.

Three team trade?   :o
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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #616 on: February 16, 2013, 01:50:25 AM »

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Bynum is joining the Cavs good night.

Arghh!!!  Mis-direction.

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Re: Pick 2: Draft Order for teams and picks
« Reply #617 on: February 16, 2013, 01:58:46 AM »

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So hypothetically, the Cavs might look like:

Irving
?
?
Tristan Thompson
Andrew Bynum

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« Reply #618 on: February 16, 2013, 02:06:40 AM »

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So hypothetically, the Cavs might look like:

Irving
?
?
Tristan Thompson
Andrew Bynum

Duh!  Apparently I'm slow on the uptake.  Forget you had the Cavs.

If Ronaldo was simply trying to pit us against each other for Bynum, you can have him.

No way would I give up a 1st for Bynum.  Might be ok for you, if you're looking towards the future (and have some sort of time machine to predict whether his knees will last).

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« Reply #619 on: February 16, 2013, 02:12:00 AM »

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So hypothetically, the Cavs might look like:

Irving
?
?
Tristan Thompson
Andrew Bynum

Was there a Kyrie + Bynum tandem before? Last year maybe?

Edit: Ah, here we go

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Cleveland Cavaliers

PG - Kyrie Irving, Chauncey Billups, Earl Watson
SG - Landry Fields, George Hill, Sam Young
SF - Luol Deng, Jeff Green
PF - Kris Humphries, Brandon Bass, Matt Bonner
C  - Andrew Bynum, Nenad Krstic

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« Reply #620 on: February 16, 2013, 02:23:09 AM »

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So hypothetically, the Cavs might look like:

Irving
?
?
Tristan Thompson
Andrew Bynum

Was there a Kyrie + Bynum tandem before? Last year maybe?

Maybe, can't remember.

Again, hypothetically, since no trade has yet been approved, here is how Id see it.

Andrew Bynum is a lot of things. Potentially injury prone, potentially problematic in the lockerroom, terrible neighbor.

But he's shown himself to be a 20-10 all-star, elite defender among centers, and he's supposed to return after the break.

I can't fathom a situation that might arise where I would (hypothetically) have the potential to acquire a center with a track record of 20-10 who has not yet reached his ceiling in the draft. Injury prone or no, the remaining high-ceiling centers are nowhere near as dominant offensively as Andrew Bynum.

While ideally Id prefer a better stretch 4 next to Bynum, Thompson won't stop rebounding , converting in transition, or working the P&R. On the other side, i (hypothetically) acquire a potential 20 pt scorer, 10+ rebounder, and elite defender at the 5 to build around Irving long-term.

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« Reply #621 on: February 16, 2013, 07:15:25 AM »

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So hypothetically, the Cavs might look like:

Irving
?
?
Tristan Thompson
Andrew Bynum

Was there a Kyrie + Bynum tandem before? Last year maybe?

Maybe, can't remember.

Again, hypothetically, since no trade has yet been approved, here is how Id see it.

Andrew Bynum is a lot of things. Potentially injury prone, potentially problematic in the lockerroom, terrible neighbor.

But he's shown himself to be a 20-10 all-star, elite defender among centers, and he's supposed to return after the break.

I can't fathom a situation that might arise where I would (hypothetically) have the potential to acquire a center with a track record of 20-10 who has not yet reached his ceiling in the draft. Injury prone or no, the remaining high-ceiling centers are nowhere near as dominant offensively as Andrew Bynum.

While ideally Id prefer a better stretch 4 next to Bynum, Thompson won't stop rebounding , converting in transition, or working the P&R. On the other side, i (hypothetically) acquire a potential 20 pt scorer, 10+ rebounder, and elite defender at the 5 to build around Irving long-term.

Well put, when Bynum is playing he is a 20-10 guy and definety an all star.
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« Reply #622 on: February 16, 2013, 08:12:39 AM »

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Trading Andrew Bynum for a first

He'd be an intriguing frontcourt complement to LMA.
I disagree, A.Bynum would be bad for Aldridge just like A.Bynum was bad for Pau Gasol.

Sticking Aldridge alongside a low-post-only big man forces Aldridge to spend a larger proportion of his time and receive a larger portion of touches and shot attempts further away from the basket. More time in that 15-22 foot range than in that 6-12 foot range.

Which creates lower quality scoring opportunities which leads to both lower scoring numbers and lower scoring efficiency. It makes Aldridge less of a threat offensively. Easier to defend against. Less of a matchup problem.

You want to get Aldridge alongside a big man who has an inside-outside game (like Marc Gasol) or someone who plays mainly away from the hoop. Avoid guys who only have value offensively 5 foot from the basket (at least in important / big minute roles).

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« Reply #623 on: February 16, 2013, 08:17:03 AM »

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Sources: Randolph has been traded
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« Reply #624 on: February 16, 2013, 08:30:50 AM »

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Sources: Randolph has been traded.

Whos the source?
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« Reply #625 on: February 16, 2013, 08:32:05 AM »

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Sources: Randolph has been traded

Really?  Wow.  I thought you had a great big combo there, CC.   You getting picks, or players, or both?   What say your sources?

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« Reply #626 on: February 16, 2013, 08:36:52 AM »

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Im looking for versatile high-character guys at the 2 and 3 who can compensate for Irving's sub-par passing...

It's a shame Irving's GM doesn't recognize his full potential.

Irving's passing will be fine as soon as he's surrounded by quality teammates who can finish.

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« Reply #627 on: February 16, 2013, 08:39:56 AM »

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I haven't heard anything about a Randolph trade.

However, the Bynum deal is confirmed:

Cavs send:
1.16
2.16


76ers send:
Andrew Bynum
3.9


We paired Bynum and Irving last year, and I loved that combo at the time.  In theory, I still do.  In reality, Bynum has had a major injury in 5 out of the past 6 seasons and has major attitude problems.  He's also going to be getting a max contract.

That's not the type of player I'd build around. 

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« Reply #628 on: February 16, 2013, 08:44:26 AM »

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If ronaldo can surround Holiday with nice pieces at those two firsts and two seconds, he's got a real strong contender right there.

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« Reply #629 on: February 16, 2013, 08:49:25 AM »

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