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[Humble G]

how about this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=a3pnrbo

Boston sends BASS and LEE(i know i know)
GETS Gortat and Shannon brown

Suns send gortat and brown
Get Al Jefferson

Denver Mozgov and Chandler
Get Lee and Bass

Utah sends Al Jefferson
gets Mozgov and Chandler and saves some $$$

[Evantime34]

how about this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=a3pnrbo

Boston sends BASS and LEE(i know i know)
GETS Gortat and Shannon brown

Suns send gortat and brown
Get Al Jefferson

Denver Mozgov and Chandler
Get Lee and Bass

Utah sends Al Jefferson
gets Mozgov and Chandler and saves some $$$

It's good for the first two teams.

[Moranis]

What else are Phoenix giving up to get Al Jefferson?

Do they really need to give up much aside from Gortat (they have some expiring deals, which will reach the salary)?  I mean really, everyone knows Jefferson is leaving Utah, what else do they have to give up to get him?

If Utah does really want a third team, I'd probably consider something like this, which I think might work for all 3 teams

BOS - Gortat, Dudley, Marvin Williams
UTA - Pierce
PHO - Jefferson, Melo

Minor pieces can be added as necessary.

Not good. 


If the team is going after Gortat to improve the team this season, there is no reason to give up Pierce. 


And no reason to bring back Williams.  He is basically Green clone.

Yes, but those are the types of things you have to do get a center like Gortat and a solid wing like Dudley (who has an amazing contract).

[pearljammer10]

What else are Phoenix giving up to get Al Jefferson?

Do they really need to give up much aside from Gortat (they have some expiring deals, which will reach the salary)?  I mean really, everyone knows Jefferson is leaving Utah, what else do they have to give up to get him?

If Utah does really want a third team, I'd probably consider something like this, which I think might work for all 3 teams

BOS - Gortat, Dudley, Marvin Williams
UTA - Pierce
PHO - Jefferson, Melo

Minor pieces can be added as necessary.

Not good. 


If the team is going after Gortat to improve the team this season, there is no reason to give up Pierce. 


And no reason to bring back Williams.  He is basically Green clone.

Yes, but those are the types of things you have to do get a center like Gortat and a solid wing like Dudley (who has an amazing contract).

Im not giving up Pierce for Gortat. Gortat makes us buyers in the market and gives us a better chance at winning this year. Without Pierce, trading for Gortat is less appealing.

I tried to fool around with the trade machine but came up empty. Bass and Bradley to the Jazz works but the Jazz are getting rid of Jefferson to make room for Kanter and Favors. They aren't going to want Bass in there taking up space.

[Humble G]

how about this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=a3pnrbo

Boston sends BASS and LEE(i know i know)
GETS Gortat and Shannon brown

Suns send gortat and brown
Get Al Jefferson

Denver Mozgov and Chandler
Get Lee and Bass

Utah sends Al Jefferson
gets Mozgov and Chandler and saves some $$$

It's good for the first two teams.

Maybe Boston sends a pick to Utah, as far as denver they could use both bass and lee off the bench a lot more and better than they use mozgov and chandler

[Evantime34]

how about this:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine/?tradeId=a3pnrbo

Boston sends BASS and LEE(i know i know)
GETS Gortat and Shannon brown

Suns send gortat and brown
Get Al Jefferson

Denver Mozgov and Chandler
Get Lee and Bass

Utah sends Al Jefferson
gets Mozgov and Chandler and saves some $$$

It's good for the first two teams.

Maybe Boston sends a pick to Utah, as far as denver they could use both bass and lee off the bench a lot more and better than they use mozgov and chandler

I would rather have Chandler than Courtney Lee. Bass is an upgrade over Mozgov (right now) but since the don't play Mozgov Bass would probably cut into the minutes of McGee, Galanari, and Faried who are all better than him.

[wdleehi]

Can someone show me where this rumor came from?



I am starting to believe this is fake. 

[Kane3387]

Thought the Suns wanted Dudley from Phoenix... That be the SF.

[Moranis]

What else are Phoenix giving up to get Al Jefferson?

Do they really need to give up much aside from Gortat (they have some expiring deals, which will reach the salary)?  I mean really, everyone knows Jefferson is leaving Utah, what else do they have to give up to get him?

If Utah does really want a third team, I'd probably consider something like this, which I think might work for all 3 teams

BOS - Gortat, Dudley, Marvin Williams
UTA - Pierce
PHO - Jefferson, Melo

Minor pieces can be added as necessary.

Not good. 


If the team is going after Gortat to improve the team this season, there is no reason to give up Pierce. 


And no reason to bring back Williams.  He is basically Green clone.

Yes, but those are the types of things you have to do get a center like Gortat and a solid wing like Dudley (who has an amazing contract).

Im not giving up Pierce for Gortat. Gortat makes us buyers in the market and gives us a better chance at winning this year. Without Pierce, trading for Gortat is less appealing.

I tried to fool around with the trade machine but came up empty. Bass and Bradley to the Jazz works but the Jazz are getting rid of Jefferson to make room for Kanter and Favors. They aren't going to want Bass in there taking up space.

Gortat is a young center on a very reasonable deal that helps Boston long term.  If you can trade a veteran who is a year or two from retiring that has a big contract from a team that is not going to win the title, then you have to do it.  In the trade I proposed, Boston also got Dudley, who is more than adequate filling in for Pierce.

[wdleehi]

What else are Phoenix giving up to get Al Jefferson?

Do they really need to give up much aside from Gortat (they have some expiring deals, which will reach the salary)?  I mean really, everyone knows Jefferson is leaving Utah, what else do they have to give up to get him?

If Utah does really want a third team, I'd probably consider something like this, which I think might work for all 3 teams

BOS - Gortat, Dudley, Marvin Williams
UTA - Pierce
PHO - Jefferson, Melo

Minor pieces can be added as necessary.

Not good. 


If the team is going after Gortat to improve the team this season, there is no reason to give up Pierce. 


And no reason to bring back Williams.  He is basically Green clone.

Yes, but those are the types of things you have to do get a center like Gortat and a solid wing like Dudley (who has an amazing contract).

Im not giving up Pierce for Gortat. Gortat makes us buyers in the market and gives us a better chance at winning this year. Without Pierce, trading for Gortat is less appealing.

I tried to fool around with the trade machine but came up empty. Bass and Bradley to the Jazz works but the Jazz are getting rid of Jefferson to make room for Kanter and Favors. They aren't going to want Bass in there taking up space.

Gortat is a young center on a very reasonable deal that helps Boston long term.  If you can trade a veteran who is a year or two from retiring that has a big contract from a team that is not going to win the title, then you have to do it.  In the trade I proposed, Boston also got Dudley, who is more than adequate filling in for Pierce.

Gortat is 28 years old.  This is not a move towards the future.  This is about the now and near future. 


Pierce is also about the now. 



No way the Celtics should make that move.  If they were getting Jefferson or Favors and Kanter, maybe.  But not Gortat.