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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2013, 02:01:29 AM »
Around 1:24 mark you can hear them mentioning "burn it down" and mention something about "gas". It sounds like they say to burn it down. I am interested to see what the liveleak community thinks they said in this video. The owner of the cabin did say the cabin did have propane.


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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2013, 03:29:08 AM »
Smoke and fire has long been used to break up fortified positions through out man's history.

I read today one charred body found.  I do not feel sympathetic to Dorner at all.   Probably shot himself when the building went up and smoke happened.   I 'd rather die by bullet than get roasted alive.

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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2013, 03:46:31 AM »
Good old US of A, innocent until proven guilty...
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Re: AP source: Ex-cop exchanges fire with authorities
« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2013, 12:57:09 PM »
Apparently he's upset with an attempted cover up by the LAPD that he wouldn't partake in. No excuse for such terrible violence but it makes you wonder. ???
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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #19 on: February 13, 2013, 01:07:06 PM »
Do we know for certain that this guy actually killed anyone. Did this guy actually write the manifesto or was it planted?

Is this guy being framed?

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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #20 on: February 13, 2013, 01:56:43 PM »
Do we know for certain that this guy actually killed anyone. Did this guy actually write the manifesto or was it planted?

Is this guy being framed?

Can you define the level of evidence you'd consider acceptable to answer the first set of questions?  Would it differ from the level you'd need to answer the last one?

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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #21 on: February 13, 2013, 02:00:53 PM »


  "Jumpy officers guarding one of his targets in Torrance on Thursday shot and injured two women delivering newspapers because they mistook their pickup truck for Dorner's."

  Yikes.

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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #22 on: February 13, 2013, 02:02:40 PM »


  "Jumpy officers guarding one of his targets in Torrance on Thursday shot and injured two women delivering newspapers because they mistook their pickup truck for Dorner's."

  Yikes.

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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #23 on: February 13, 2013, 02:08:59 PM »


  "Jumpy officers guarding one of his targets in Torrance on Thursday shot and injured two women delivering newspapers because they mistook their pickup truck for Dorner's."

  Yikes.

They also shot a third person later for driving a truck in the same spot.  Thing is, neither truck really resembled Dorner's, other than being a truck.  Dorner had a grey Titan - here's the truck the two women had:


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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #24 on: February 13, 2013, 02:12:54 PM »


  "Jumpy officers guarding one of his targets in Torrance on Thursday shot and injured two women delivering newspapers because they mistook their pickup truck for Dorner's."

  Yikes.

They also shot a third person later for driving a truck in the same spot.  Thing is, neither truck really resembled Dorner's, other than being a truck.  Dorner had a grey Titan - here's the truck the two women had:



  That's quite a few bullets, too bad those guys didn't have a rocket launcher or something. And is it a little odd that the bullet holes are in the back of the truck? Where were they guarding the family from?

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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #25 on: February 13, 2013, 02:17:01 PM »


  "Jumpy officers guarding one of his targets in Torrance on Thursday shot and injured two women delivering newspapers because they mistook their pickup truck for Dorner's."

  Yikes.

They also shot a third person later for driving a truck in the same spot.  Thing is, neither truck really resembled Dorner's, other than being a truck.  Dorner had a grey Titan - here's the truck the two women had:



  That's quite a few bullets, too bad those guys didn't have a rocket launcher or something. And is it a little odd that the bullet holes are in the back of the truck? Where were they guarding the family from?

Don't know specifics but my guess is they were in a concealed position, came out fast behind the truck, maybe the driver panicked and started to take off so they shot it up good.  Very fortunate those women are still alive because that looks like a pretty vicious mix of incompetence and overkill.

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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #26 on: February 13, 2013, 02:20:14 PM »


  "Jumpy officers guarding one of his targets in Torrance on Thursday shot and injured two women delivering newspapers because they mistook their pickup truck for Dorner's."

  Yikes.

They also shot a third person later for driving a truck in the same spot.  Thing is, neither truck really resembled Dorner's, other than being a truck.  Dorner had a grey Titan - here's the truck the two women had:



  That's quite a few bullets, too bad those guys didn't have a rocket launcher or something. And is it a little odd that the bullet holes are in the back of the truck? Where were they guarding the family from?

Don't know specifics but my guess is they were in a concealed position, came out fast behind the truck, maybe the driver panicked and started to take off so they shot it up good.  Very fortunate those women are still alive because that looks like a pretty vicious mix of incompetence and overkill.

Judging by the number of bullet holes visible, overkill certainly is an apt term in this situation.  Yikes.


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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #27 on: February 13, 2013, 02:26:22 PM »
Do we know for certain that this guy actually killed anyone. Did this guy actually write the manifesto or was it planted?

Is this guy being framed?

Seriously?

It's posts like these that make me wish we could give negative TP's.

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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #28 on: February 13, 2013, 02:29:16 PM »


  "Jumpy officers guarding one of his targets in Torrance on Thursday shot and injured two women delivering newspapers because they mistook their pickup truck for Dorner's."

  Yikes.

They also shot a third person later for driving a truck in the same spot.  Thing is, neither truck really resembled Dorner's, other than being a truck.  Dorner had a grey Titan - here's the truck the two women had:



  That's quite a few bullets, too bad those guys didn't have a rocket launcher or something. And is it a little odd that the bullet holes are in the back of the truck? Where were they guarding the family from?

Don't know specifics but my guess is they were in a concealed position, came out fast behind the truck, maybe the driver panicked and started to take off so they shot it up good.  Very fortunate those women are still alive because that looks like a pretty vicious mix of incompetence and overkill.

Judging by the number of bullet holes visible, overkill certainly is an apt term in this situation.  Yikes.

This is unbelievable.
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Re: AP source: Christopher Dorner exchanges fire with authorities, 1dead
« Reply #29 on: February 13, 2013, 02:31:56 PM »
From other sources it sounded like, at least initially, the LAPD was trying to portray his manifesto as the musings of a madman, but based upon that amnifesto, Dorner sounded like an eloquent and thoughful man that was pushed to his breaking point...

In his writings he mentions certain types of cops and specific individuals who he planned to target, but were any of the people that he killed even remotely related to his history/backstory?  I know he killed the daughter/son in law of his former attorney, but his writings suggested that innocents, for the most part, would be spared.  That doesn't seem to be how it went down though...
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