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Big man depth
« on: February 10, 2013, 01:59:50 PM »

Offline arctic 3.0

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Given our lack of big man depth and the fact that bass is only player we seem to want to trade I'm coming around to the idea that we are going to have to play green at the 4 a lot.
Even if we are able to swap bass for a more productive and taller big we will be woefully short of bigs.
While green is a weak rebounder he is a match up nightmare for many 4's.
I'd love to see dany work some mirical trade where we swap bass and his long contract for a center who produces more I'm resigned finishing the season with this roster.
If we make a lineup change and start green alongside kg with bass as the backup we get two benefits.
1: our big man depth is improved with out a trade
2: we increase greens minutes. He plays 20 at the 4 and 12-14 backing up pierce at the three.
One thought on rebounding... we don't have a dominent rebounder. to win  we have to rely on team effort. green at the 4 doesn't help our rebounding at that position but i don't believe it hurts mich.
Thoughts?

Re: Big man depth
« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2013, 02:01:56 PM »

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Our big man depth is not that bad, we have 4 players currently who are big-men rotation players, and two open roster spaces yet to be filled.

Re: Big man depth
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2013, 02:02:43 PM »

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Our big man depth is not that bad, we have 4 players currently who are big-men rotation players, and two open roster spaces yet to be filled.

We also have 4 players for the backcourt and 2 players for the SF position.

One injury = end of season even if it's Barbosa, Wilcox or Collins...

Look at Denver's roster... 15 players >_<

[and Melo should never go into our rotation this year]
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Re: Big man depth
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2013, 02:05:04 PM »

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Our big man depth is not that bad, we have 4 players currently who are big-men rotation players, and two open roster spaces yet to be filled.

We also have 4 players for the backcourt and 2 players for the SF position.

One injury = end of season even if it's Barbosa, Wilcox or Collins...

Look at Denver's roster... 15 players >_<

[and Melo should never go into our rotation this year]

Barbosa goes down, 3-man rotation is all you need, and Pierce can play SG too.

SF depth is one of my main concerns.

Re: Big man depth
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2013, 02:07:12 PM »

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Our big man depth is not that bad, we have 4 players currently who are big-men rotation players, and two open roster spaces yet to be filled.

We also have 4 players for the backcourt and 2 players for the SF position.

One injury = end of season even if it's Barbosa, Wilcox or Collins...

Look at Denver's roster... 15 players >_<

[and Melo should never go into our rotation this year]

Barbosa goes down, 3-man rotation is all you need, and Pierce can play SG too.

SF depth is one of my main concerns.

SF is our deepest position with Lee, Pierce, Green all able to fill in.

Barbosa goes down, Bradley/Lee/Terry could cut it... but I wouldn't like it at all. They'd be gassed by the playoffs. Terry is old, Lee/Bradley can only play so many minutes. Pierce would have to move to PG/SG at times leaving Green playing big minutes at the SF (which is all of your worst dreams) and KG/Bass/Wilcox basically taking on all frontcourt duties. Collins would need like 15 mpg o_o
Jeff Green - Top 5 SF

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Re: Big man depth
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2013, 02:08:13 PM »

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Barring a 2 or 3 for 1 trade we'll be filling those last roster spots with  old FA's or d leaguers. I have a feeling one of those roster spots will go to Micah downs who plays with energy on d, shoots well and is familiar to the org.

Re: Big man depth
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2013, 02:09:02 PM »

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Our big man depth is not that bad, we have 4 players currently who are big-men rotation players, and two open roster spaces yet to be filled.

We also have 4 players for the backcourt and 2 players for the SF position.

One injury = end of season even if it's Barbosa, Wilcox or Collins...

Look at Denver's roster... 15 players >_<

[and Melo should never go into our rotation this year]

Barbosa goes down, 3-man rotation is all you need, and Pierce can play SG too.

SF depth is one of my main concerns.

SF is our deepest position with Lee, Pierce, Green all able to fill in.

Barbosa goes down, Bradley/Lee/Terry could cut it... but I wouldn't like it at all. They'd be gassed by the playoffs. Terry is old, Lee/Bradley can only play so many minutes. Pierce would have to move to PG/SG at times leaving Green playing big minutes at the SF (which is all of your worst dreams) and KG/Bass/Wilcox basically taking on all frontcourt duties. Collins would need like 15 mpg o_o

I don't want Lee anywhere at SF except in case of high emergency.

Re: Big man depth
« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2013, 02:09:21 PM »

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Can we possibly have Darko come back now that we can offer him more playing time?

Re: Big man depth
« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2013, 02:09:45 PM »

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Can we possibly have Darko come back now that we can offer him more playing time?

Pretty sure we could. Not sure.

Re: Big man depth
« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2013, 02:12:41 PM »

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Our big man depth is not that bad, we have 4 players currently who are big-men rotation players, and two open roster spaces yet to be filled.

We also have 4 players for the backcourt and 2 players for the SF position.

One injury = end of season even if it's Barbosa, Wilcox or Collins...

Look at Denver's roster... 15 players >_<

[and Melo should never go into our rotation this year]

Barbosa goes down, 3-man rotation is all you need, and Pierce can play SG too.

SF depth is one of my main concerns.

SF is our deepest position with Lee, Pierce, Green all able to fill in.

Barbosa goes down, Bradley/Lee/Terry could cut it... but I wouldn't like it at all. They'd be gassed by the playoffs. Terry is old, Lee/Bradley can only play so many minutes. Pierce would have to move to PG/SG at times leaving Green playing big minutes at the SF (which is all of your worst dreams) and KG/Bass/Wilcox basically taking on all frontcourt duties. Collins would need like 15 mpg o_o

I don't want Lee anywhere at SF except in case of high emergency.

If Barbosa leaves we have a high emergency.

If Barbosa went down... something bad would happen along the lines of:
PG | Bradley: 25 minutes, Lee: 10 minutes, Terry: 13 minutes
SG | Lee: 18 minutes, Terry: 18 minutes Pierce: 12 minutes
SF | Green: 30 minutes, Pierce: 18 minutes
PF | Garnett: 20 minutes, Bass: 28 minutes
C  | Garnett: 10 minutes, Wilcox: 18 minutes, Collins: 12 minutes





YUCK!
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Re: Big man depth
« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2013, 02:12:44 PM »

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Can we possibly have Darko come back now that we can offer him more playing time?

Pretty sure we could. Not sure.

He should at least know the system, and he's got the skills we need off the bench. I'd try to get him back. He's also huge and violent, we need that too.

Re: Big man depth
« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2013, 02:13:53 PM »

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Can we possibly have Darko come back now that we can offer him more playing time?

Pretty sure we could. Not sure.

He should at least know the system, and he's got the skills we need off the bench. I'd try to get him back. He's also huge and violent, we need that too.

He barely learned the system!
Jeff Green - Top 5 SF

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Re: Big man depth
« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2013, 02:15:07 PM »

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Our big man depth is not that bad, we have 4 players currently who are big-men rotation players, and two open roster spaces yet to be filled.

We also have 4 players for the backcourt and 2 players for the SF position.

One injury = end of season even if it's Barbosa, Wilcox or Collins...

Look at Denver's roster... 15 players >_<

[and Melo should never go into our rotation this year]

Barbosa goes down, 3-man rotation is all you need, and Pierce can play SG too.

SF depth is one of my main concerns.

SF is our deepest position with Lee, Pierce, Green all able to fill in.

Barbosa goes down, Bradley/Lee/Terry could cut it... but I wouldn't like it at all. They'd be gassed by the playoffs. Terry is old, Lee/Bradley can only play so many minutes. Pierce would have to move to PG/SG at times leaving Green playing big minutes at the SF (which is all of your worst dreams) and KG/Bass/Wilcox basically taking on all frontcourt duties. Collins would need like 15 mpg o_o

I don't want Lee anywhere at SF except in case of high emergency.

If Barbosa leaves we have a high emergency.

If Barbosa went down... something bad would happen along the lines of:
PG | Bradley: 15 minutes, Lee: 18 minutes, Terry: 15 minutes
SG | Lee: 12 minutes, Terry: 15 minutes Pierce: 21 minutes
SF | Green: 33 minutes, Pierce: 15 minutes
PF | Garnett: 20 minutes, Bass: 36 minutes
C  | Garnett: 10 minutes, Wilcox: 15 minutes, Collins: 10 minutes





YUCK!

I think we'd be fine with Bradley, Lee, and Terry if Barbosa goes down. Still, it would be helpful to use one of those empty roster spots on a point guard, if there is one out there that can contribute.

Re: Big man depth
« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2013, 02:16:45 PM »

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Our big man depth is not that bad, we have 4 players currently who are big-men rotation players, and two open roster spaces yet to be filled.

We also have 4 players for the backcourt and 2 players for the SF position.

One injury = end of season even if it's Barbosa, Wilcox or Collins...

Look at Denver's roster... 15 players >_<

[and Melo should never go into our rotation this year]

Barbosa goes down, 3-man rotation is all you need, and Pierce can play SG too.

SF depth is one of my main concerns.

SF is our deepest position with Lee, Pierce, Green all able to fill in.

Barbosa goes down, Bradley/Lee/Terry could cut it... but I wouldn't like it at all. They'd be gassed by the playoffs. Terry is old, Lee/Bradley can only play so many minutes. Pierce would have to move to PG/SG at times leaving Green playing big minutes at the SF (which is all of your worst dreams) and KG/Bass/Wilcox basically taking on all frontcourt duties. Collins would need like 15 mpg o_o

I don't want Lee anywhere at SF except in case of high emergency.

If Barbosa leaves we have a high emergency.

If Barbosa went down... something bad would happen along the lines of:
PG | Bradley: 15 minutes, Lee: 18 minutes, Terry: 15 minutes
SG | Lee: 12 minutes, Terry: 15 minutes Pierce: 21 minutes
SF | Green: 33 minutes, Pierce: 15 minutes
PF | Garnett: 20 minutes, Bass: 36 minutes
C  | Garnett: 10 minutes, Wilcox: 15 minutes, Collins: 10 minutes





YUCK!

I think we'd be fine with Bradley, Lee, and Terry if Barbosa goes down. Still, it would be helpful to use one of those empty roster spots on a point guard, if there is one out there that can contribute.

We would need that or Pierce would have to slide to SG at times, Green to SF more, and maybe even Bass to SF at times (aka torture)
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Re: Big man depth
« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2013, 02:18:59 PM »

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Our big man depth sucks.  We need at least one more guy who can contribute for 20 minutes a game.