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Josh Smith trade rumors
« on: February 08, 2013, 04:38:29 PM »

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The Hawks met with Smith's representatives this week, at which point the team indicated it was not willing to give Smith a max contract after this season, according to a source.
Smith, who will be an unrestricted free agent this summer, told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution late last month that he believes he's a max player, which would mean he'd be in line for a five-year deal worth around $94 million from Atlanta.
But the Hawks, which expect to be major players next summer in free agency or through trades, do not want to tie up that kind of money going forward.
Smith, according to a source, is prepared to move on. He has been one of the most enigmatic players in the Hawks' history, capable of incredible feats at both ends of the floor—as evidenced by his 23-point, 16-rebound performance against the Bulls in the 2011 playoffs—but also capable of driving coaches and fans crazy with his decision-making. Last month he was suspended by the team for a game for "conduct detrimental to the team," after a run-in at practice with Coach Larry Drew.
Yet the Hawks have not formally decided to trade the 27-year-old Smith, who leads Atlanta in scoring and blocked shots, and is second in rebounds and assists. Team president of basketball operations and general manager Danny Ferry is in fact-finding mode now, seeing what the market is for Smith.
The website Hoopsworld reported earlier this week that the Suns had had exploratory talks with Atlanta about Smith.
If the Hawks hold onto Smith for the rest of this season, they could still trade him this summer in a sign-and-trade deal. However, the market for such trades will begin to narrow; teams $4 million or more above the luxury tax threshold, or that would become $4 million or more above the threshold by making a trade, will be prohibited from doing sign and trade deals.
The Hawks traded for signed for eight players on the last year of their contracts this summer. Five of those players came from the Nets in the deal that sent Joe Johnson to Brooklyn last July. They can clear more than $30 million in cap room by just letting those deals expire; only Al Horford and guards Lou Williams and John Jenkins are under contract for next season.
If the Hawks let Smith walk without taking any salary back, they'd be able to clear more than $40 million off their cap.
The Hawks could be a player for free agents like Dwight Howard, who is from Atlanta, or guard Chris Paul, who famously was skipped over by the Hawks in the 2005 Draft in favor of forward Marvin Williams, taken with the second pick overall that year. But if they find they can't attract a premier free agent, they might still be able to deal Smith in a sign-and-trade for an impact player under contract similar to that which they might find in free agency.


http://www.nba.com/2013/news/02/08/josh-smith-trade-offers/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpts
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Re: Hawks say no to Josh Smith max extension in meeting w/his reps
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If the Hawks hold onto Smith for the rest of this season, they could still trade him this summer in a sign-and-trade deal. However, the market for such trades will begin to narrow; teams $4 million or more above the luxury tax threshold, or that would become $4 million or more above the threshold by making a trade, will be prohibited from doing sign and trade deals.
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If the Hawks let Smith walk without taking any salary back, they'd be able to clear more than $40 million off their cap.

Key info there. I wonder how dramatically the market for Smith would change if the Hawks decide not to trade him until the offseason?
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Re: Hawks say no to Josh Smith max extension in meeting w/his reps
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2013, 04:43:58 PM »

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Well, he's not a max player, in my opinion. Plus, he has sort of a Dwight Howard mentality—doesn't seem to be serious about basketball, and doesn't really improve on his weak areas. Both players are scary good when utilizing their strengths and maintaining their focus, but they don't do those two things often enough.

Unfortunately, Rondo, I think, has a bit of this as well (think "free throws" and the "I play well when I want to" aura he exudes).
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« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2013, 04:44:49 PM »

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best for atl to trade this unrealitic son of a gun and trade him by the trade deadline.

If you wait until the summer and nobody else wants to give him a max deal, they have the cap space and Smith burns his bridge with the hawks, the hawks will get zero back for Smith. It will be a step backward for the team

PHX has the most interst. If i were ATL i would ask them a deal surrounding Gortat, Beasley and 1st round pick (lotto bound)
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best for atl to trade this unrealitic son of a gun and trade him by the trade deadline.

If you wait until the summer and nobody else wants to give him a max deal, they have the cap space and Smith burns his bridge with the hawks, the hawks will get zero back for Smith. It will be a step backward for the team

PHX has the most interst. If i were ATL i would ask them a deal surrounding Gortat, Beasley and 1st round pick (lotto bound)

I don't know: isn't trading Smith for Beasley just exchanging one massive headache for a lesser one (that lasts for two more years)?

Maybe ask for the expiring contract of Wes Johnson in the deal, plus a couple of 1st round picks (Phoenix has rights to the Lakers and Wolves protected 2013 picks)?
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Re: Hawks say no to Josh Smith max extension in meeting w/his reps
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2013, 07:12:19 PM »

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Maybe hawks want fab like they did in the draft lol

Re: Hawks say no to Josh Smith max extension in meeting w/his reps
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Nets going hard after Josh Smith, sources say. While they've discussed a trade for Ben Gordon, getting Josh is a bigger priority.
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Nets going hard after Josh Smith, sources say. While they've discussed a trade for Ben Gordon, getting Josh is a bigger priority.

Chris_Broussard

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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2013, 09:46:59 PM »

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Will anyone give him one? Dallas or other team with space?
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Re: Hawks say no to Josh Smith max extension in meeting w/his reps
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Nets going hard after Josh Smith, sources say. While they've discussed a trade for Ben Gordon, getting Josh is a bigger priority.

Chris_Broussard

Deron Williams for J-Smoove?

That'd be funny.

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Brooklyn continuing their trend of trying to overpay very good but not great players.


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Good decision by the hawks not overpaying an overrated player.

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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2013, 10:16:01 PM »

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Two things:

1-Smith is not a max contract player.  Nobody should give him one, although someone probably will.

2-Atlanta will only trade Smith for expirings and picks.  They want the cap space.  My guess s Smith will not be traded.

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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2013, 10:40:43 PM »

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what can the nets offer for Smith? Humphries, Brooks, and picks?

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« Reply #14 on: February 10, 2013, 10:42:02 PM »

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what can the nets offer for Smith? Humphries, Brooks, and picks?

Maybe wallace to?

 

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