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PHX/BOS Simple & Realistic
« on: February 04, 2013, 09:29:21 PM »

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Re: PHX/BOS Simple & Realistic
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2013, 09:31:17 PM »

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If we still keep future HOFs Pierce, KG and Collins. Then its a deal!
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Re: PHX/BOS Simple & Realistic
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2013, 09:32:37 PM »

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I don't know I just don't see PHX trading Gortat for an unproven nba rookie center and Bass on a bad year...

Re: PHX/BOS Simple & Realistic
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2013, 09:32:48 PM »

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Simple, yes. Realistic, no.

Re: PHX/BOS Simple & Realistic
« Reply #4 on: February 04, 2013, 10:02:10 PM »

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If we still keep future HOFs Pierce, KG and Collins. Then its a deal!

I see what you did there.. But Yes I would love to get Gortat here. Would be a great plyer next to KG



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Re: PHX/BOS Simple & Realistic
« Reply #5 on: February 04, 2013, 10:07:09 PM »

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Why does Phoenix do this again?
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Re: PHX/BOS Simple & Realistic
« Reply #6 on: February 04, 2013, 10:23:07 PM »

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Great for us. Bad for them.

Expirings, picks and/or rookie deals is what they want.

Maybe turn Bass into an expiring, plus Melo plus a 1st or two seconds might do it.

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« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2013, 10:50:06 PM »

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Re: PHX/BOS Simple & Realistic
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2013, 11:09:02 PM »

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I don't think it's completely implausible.  Phoenix wants to trade Gortat.  He's got a decent contract, but this means they are limited in the amount of salary they can take back (also, the Phoenix owner is a cheapskate.)  Melo's D-league play has not hurt his stock, and Bass's contract isn't atrocious.  I think they'd prefer Bradley, but if Bradley were available Gortat would already be a Celtic.

We'd probably have to add some sort of draft compensation unless Bass remembers how to play basketball in the next two weeks, but I don't think such a deal is implausible.  Unlikely, yes, because all deals posted on Celticsblog are unlikely, but I've seen (and probably proposed) worse.

That said, I don't do this deal, because I'm I'm favor of blowing it all up, and trading for Gortat doesn't fit that plan too well.

Re: PHX/BOS Simple & Realistic
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2013, 11:19:41 PM »

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I don't think it's completely implausible.  Phoenix wants to trade Gortat.  He's got a decent contract, but this means they are limited in the amount of salary they can take back (also, the Phoenix owner is a cheapskate.)  Melo's D-league play has not hurt his stock, and Bass's contract isn't atrocious.  I think they'd prefer Bradley, but if Bradley were available Gortat would already be a Celtic.

We'd probably have to add some sort of draft compensation unless Bass remembers how to play basketball in the next two weeks, but I don't think such a deal is implausible.  Unlikely, yes, because all deals posted on Celticsblog are unlikely, but I've seen (and probably proposed) worse.

That said, I don't do this deal, because I'm I'm favor of blowing it all up, and trading for Gortat doesn't fit that plan too well.

Would you still want to blow it up if we could get Gortat on our team?

PHX needs someone to bill as a star.  We have Rondo on a shelf for the season, maybe part of next (while PHX tanks anyway).  Rondo for Gortat makes sense for both sides, with possible sweetener (high 2nd/protected 1st rounder).

I don't think our team plus Gortat (or Okafor) should be blown up; they'd have a puncher's chance in the playoffs.  Nobody would want to face us for 7 games.

So acquiring that, rather than blowing up, should be the goal right now, IMO.

Re: PHX/BOS Simple & Realistic
« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2013, 11:30:59 PM »

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I don't think it's completely implausible.  Phoenix wants to trade Gortat.  He's got a decent contract, but this means they are limited in the amount of salary they can take back (also, the Phoenix owner is a cheapskate.)  Melo's D-league play has not hurt his stock, and Bass's contract isn't atrocious.  I think they'd prefer Bradley, but if Bradley were available Gortat would already be a Celtic.

We'd probably have to add some sort of draft compensation unless Bass remembers how to play basketball in the next two weeks, but I don't think such a deal is implausible.  Unlikely, yes, because all deals posted on Celticsblog are unlikely, but I've seen (and probably proposed) worse.

That said, I don't do this deal, because I'm I'm favor of blowing it all up, and trading for Gortat doesn't fit that plan too well.

Would you still want to blow it up if we could get Gortat on our team?

PHX needs someone to bill as a star.  We have Rondo on a shelf for the season, maybe part of next (while PHX tanks anyway).  Rondo for Gortat makes sense for both sides, with possible sweetener (high 2nd/protected 1st rounder).

I don't think our team plus Gortat (or Okafor) should be blown up; they'd have a puncher's chance in the playoffs.  Nobody would want to face us for 7 games.

So acquiring that, rather than blowing up, should be the goal right now, IMO.

We're not a championship contender this year without Rondo.  And I don't think we were with him, either.  If we'd gotten Gortat and Rondo hadn't gotten hurt, maybe.  We might be a scary team to
face in the first round, and be able to make it a tough series.  Maybe even get to the second round somehow.  But we're simply not consistent enough to win 4 consecutive, or even 3 consecutive, 7-game series in a row.  Take yesterday.  Sure, we won, but not before letting the clippers, without Chris Paul, completely back into the game after having a big lead.  It was no different than a lot of our recent losses, except this time Pierce made a last-second shot instead of fumbling the ball out of bounds.

So while I like Gortat a lot, and think we should kick the tires in the offseason if we are not successful at blowing up the roster this year, and if Rondo is healing well, I don't think we should get him now.

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« Reply #12 on: February 04, 2013, 11:36:01 PM »

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Even if we're not I think it's fairly obvious that Paul and kg want to at least TRY one more time. Might as well give then them the best supporting cast we can to make them feel like we have a chance. At the very least it'll be entertaining, yes? Still no way in heck Phoenix says yes to this.
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Re: PHX/BOS Simple & Realistic
« Reply #13 on: February 05, 2013, 08:29:48 AM »

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I don't think it's completely implausible.  Phoenix wants to trade Gortat.  He's got a decent contract, but this means they are limited in the amount of salary they can take back (also, the Phoenix owner is a cheapskate.)  Melo's D-league play has not hurt his stock, and Bass's contract isn't atrocious.  I think they'd prefer Bradley, but if Bradley were available Gortat would already be a Celtic.

We'd probably have to add some sort of draft compensation unless Bass remembers how to play basketball in the next two weeks, but I don't think such a deal is implausible.  Unlikely, yes, because all deals posted on Celticsblog are unlikely, but I've seen (and probably proposed) worse.

That said, I don't do this deal, because I'm I'm favor of blowing it all up, and trading for Gortat doesn't fit that plan too well.

Would you still want to blow it up if we could get Gortat on our team?

PHX needs someone to bill as a star.  We have Rondo on a shelf for the season, maybe part of next (while PHX tanks anyway).  Rondo for Gortat makes sense for both sides, with possible sweetener (high 2nd/protected 1st rounder).
I don't think our team plus Gortat (or Okafor) should be blown up; they'd have a puncher's chance in the playoffs.  Nobody would want to face us for 7 games.

So acquiring that, rather than blowing up, should be the goal right now, IMO.
Actually, that makes absolutely no sense for the Celtics.  Give up your best player and one of the top PGs in the league for an ok center?  Horrible deal.  We're not winning it all this year without Rondo and adding Gortat doesn't improve those odds much. 

Danny's sensible options at this point are to either make moves that will strengthen the team for next year with Rondo and Sully back OR blow it up completely.  We still have KG and PP next year (sure a year older) but we still have the same roster basically that now seems to understand how to play well together (as of this moment at least--they could go on another losing streak at a moment's notice).  add a better backup big man than Collins with the lower-MLE and/or the BAE and another spare part or two for depth insurance and take another run at it.

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« Reply #14 on: February 05, 2013, 08:34:02 AM »

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I don't think it's completely implausible.  Phoenix wants to trade Gortat.  He's got a decent contract, but this means they are limited in the amount of salary they can take back (also, the Phoenix owner is a cheapskate.)  Melo's D-league play has not hurt his stock, and Bass's contract isn't atrocious.  I think they'd prefer Bradley, but if Bradley were available Gortat would already be a Celtic.

We'd probably have to add some sort of draft compensation unless Bass remembers how to play basketball in the next two weeks, but I don't think such a deal is implausible.  Unlikely, yes, because all deals posted on Celticsblog are unlikely, but I've seen (and probably proposed) worse.

That said, I don't do this deal, because I'm I'm favor of blowing it all up, and trading for Gortat doesn't fit that plan too well.

Would you still want to blow it up if we could get Gortat on our team?

PHX needs someone to bill as a star.  We have Rondo on a shelf for the season, maybe part of next (while PHX tanks anyway).  Rondo for Gortat makes sense for both sides, with possible sweetener (high 2nd/protected 1st rounder).

I don't think our team plus Gortat (or Okafor) should be blown up; they'd have a puncher's chance in the playoffs.  Nobody would want to face us for 7 games.

So acquiring that, rather than blowing up, should be the goal right now, IMO.


Kareem Abdul.....Gortat?

Aren't a contender with gortat....absurd theory trading our best player for a borderline scrub

 

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