I wouldn't say they looked outstanding. Serviceable backup centers, sure. Outstanding would be reserved for a high-quality starter
I've seen plenty of Red Claws games. Melo just needs some time. Every rookie looks pretty bad in our system except for undersized PF's it seems. Every other rookie looks awful. Doc loves the KG/undersized PF combo. He might not see time until KG finally retires..
Nice observation.. Lol!
Greg Steimsma and Semih Erden both looked outstanding in our system
Dude, that's a late 2nd rounder and an undrafted who both started and succeeded for an extended stretch. That's outstanding
Doesn't matter when they were or weren't drafted, Stiemsma and Erden were decent players. It may be outstanding that they beat the odds, but that does not make them outstanding players.
You're missing the point. This isn't about beating the odds. The argument was that only undersized 4's look good as rookies in the Celtics system. Steimsma and Erden are both below-average (generous) players who looked good starting at the 5 as rookies in that system. Hence, the argument is wrong. In the case of centers, I think that the opposite is actually true because we ask so little of them offensively and because Garnett covers so much ground defensively.
I think that Fab, when he does get some extended minutes, will probably look much better than his current skill level suggests.