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« on: February 01, 2013, 12:22:28 PM »



I actually made a thread about a similar trade with KG going to the spurs and Splitter and Jackson's expiring coming back to the c's.

Rose also thinks the c's should trade PP to the Pacers for Danny Granger. He would be a 13 mil expiring contract next season, but I don't see why the c's would care when they could simply waive PP for only 4 mil against the cap next year.

I would probably do the 1st trade, but not the PP one unless I am getting back expiring contracts and a pick or young player with upside.
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« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2013, 12:31:06 PM »

Jackson is past his prime and splitter is a good role player..not sure why everybody pumps this guy up
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« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 12:35:02 PM »

Pierce and Collins for Granger and Tyler Hansbrough.
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« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2013, 12:39:59 PM »

Yeah lets blow it up for crap instead of just waiting for things to work out and playing the year out.

We can't get any value.  No one who says this knows what they are talking about.

If the value is there, fine.  But this is dumb.

I'd rather just play it out, get cap space later and let the young guys play with the greats for another season.
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« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2013, 12:40:47 PM »

Jackson is past his prime and splitter is a good role player..not sure why everybody pumps this guy up

Jackson is not in this trade for his ability, he's an expiring contract.
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« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2013, 12:43:32 PM »

I'm all for blowing it up only if we get the right guys back tho. Even tho we aren't winning a championship I'm pretty confident we'll make the playoffs. Not like that means anything but still.
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« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2013, 12:44:18 PM »

I would be delighted if Danny Ainge could get a player as good as Danny Granger for a 35 year old Paul Pierce.

I don't understand the upside for Indiana though.
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« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2013, 12:45:14 PM »

I'm all for blowing it up only if we get the right guys back tho. Even tho we aren't winning a championship I'm pretty confident we'll make the playoffs. Not like that means anything but still.

I think it can mean something, as far as development and experience for the young guys.

I'd take good value over that but I just don't see it.  We can waive Pierce if we want and KG can retire, and very possibly will.  If KG doesn't he's still a great player to have.
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« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2013, 12:51:44 PM »

Tiago Splitter's contract expires this summer. He'll be due a pay increase. Probably for a bit more than the MLE. Maybe $7 million per annum. Multi-year contract. Say a four year $26-30 million deal.

I think it be worth signing Splitter to that type of a contract. I think he'd be a good long term trade asset to keep hold of. A lot like Orlando did with Marcin Gortat.

Splitter's production would go way up playing alongside Rajon Rondo as the Celtics' starting center too. He'd probably be good for 16-18ppg and 8-9rpg in long minutes while being one of the league leaders in FG%. As a trade asset, he could fetch a very nice piece (player, prospect or lotto pick) down the road.
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« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2013, 12:54:01 PM »

At least he's not delusional and saying we're "better without rondo" like the media and fans in our own market.. kudos to jalen
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« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2013, 12:55:18 PM »

I wouldn't touch Granger right now.

Too much uncertainty and the ceiling has already been hit.
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« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2013, 12:55:28 PM »

At least he's not delusional and saying we're "better without rondo" kudos to jalen

lol yea, seriously, some people on this board are extremely delusional .
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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2013, 01:01:34 PM »

I would be delighted if Danny Ainge could get a player as good as Danny Granger for a 35 year old Paul Pierce.

I don't understand the upside for Indiana though.

Pierce is a muuuuuccccch better player than Granger even at thirty five and I would much rather have Pierce. Not only is Granger coming of a significant injury but he has greatly declined in play and stats over the last two seasons.
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« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2013, 01:02:31 PM »

I would only do the kg trade if we lose from now until the trade deadline. Splitter has potential to be a nice starter for years to come. Think of marc gasol. 1st pick is also nice. Also gives kg a chance to win another ring which I want. I wouldn't do the pierce to pacers trade though. We need a pg back at least. Pierce to clippers for Bledsoe, butler and 1st. That would give us 3 1st for a terrific pick. I'd also trade rondo for a package including another 1st. Possible to get 2 lotto or 1 top 5 like a Anthony Bennett at worse

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« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2013, 01:03:01 PM »

Hire Jalen to be an assistant to Danny!!!

He makes sense - trade KG to a contender to put them over the top! (I kinda feel like KG will go down with an injury soon - I don't want it to happen but I do feel that way) - I would also hope that KG retires after THIS year so we don't have to play against him.

The PP trade - well not too sure about it....
I'd love to get Splitter and an expiring for next year....
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