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Offline krook

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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2013, 08:33:56 AM »
I'd rather just trade Rondo to Atlanta

How about this

Rondo, Terry, Collins for Williams, Korver, Jenkins, Petro, 2013 1st (HOU), 2014 1st (ATL)

or

Rondo, Lee, Collins for Williams, Korver, Petro, Teague

bad trade for me

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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2013, 08:35:42 AM »
We'd still have to give him a max contract so no. Ainge reportedly in today's globe didn't value Gay as a cornerstone , no way he gives Smith a max deal.

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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2013, 09:00:51 AM »
I'd rather just trade Rondo to Atlanta

How about this

Rondo, Terry, Collins for Williams, Korver, Jenkins, Petro, 2013 1st (HOU), 2014 1st (ATL)

or

Rondo, Lee, Collins for Williams, Korver, Petro, Teague

bad trade for me
why.  Rondo is out probably a year and he won't be 100% (if ever) until the start of the 2014-15 season, which is the last year of his contract.  And sure Rondo will play again, but his style of play is based on athleticism, speed, etc. so there is a very good chance Rondo will never be close to the player he is ever again, and he can't shoot so he can't morph his game well into a different type of player.  Sure if you trade him, there is a risk he comes back better than ever, but at least in both of those trades, the C's are getting some real value back for him.
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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2013, 09:49:48 AM »
How bout no. josh Smith is so fraudulently over rated around here....just wait until he was actually here... he'd have more detractors then rondo and green combined
Gotta agree. For those that aren't the largest Rondo fans, if you aren't crazy about Rondo, you will hate Josh Smith.

Too true.  Josh Smith would be a terribly polarizing player here.  It's such an exciting concept I kinda wish we get to see Rondo and J-Smoove together.  Whether it succeeds or fails, it will be spectacular.
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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2013, 09:54:55 AM »

 Kind of a wild Idea, but if the the Hawks are going to loose him anyway. Why not get a top Point guard in return next year.  BTW, The advertisements are already giving me a headache.
Smith wanted to play here because of Rondo. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense.
Plus you don't want to build around Josh Smith. If you have Rondo around maybe Smith is worth it as your second star, but just Smith? No thanks.

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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2013, 09:57:55 AM »
I'd rather just trade Rondo to Atlanta

How about this

Rondo, Terry, Collins for Williams, Korver, Jenkins, Petro, 2013 1st (HOU), 2014 1st (ATL)

or

Rondo, Lee, Collins for Williams, Korver, Petro, Teague

bad trade for me
why.  Rondo is out probably a year and he won't be 100% (if ever) until the start of the 2014-15 season, which is the last year of his contract.  And sure Rondo will play again, but his style of play is based on athleticism, speed, etc. so there is a very good chance Rondo will never be close to the player he is ever again, and he can't shoot so he can't morph his game well into a different type of player.  Sure if you trade him, there is a risk he comes back better than ever, but at least in both of those trades, the C's are getting some real value back for him.
Because not everyone thinks the best way forward is to tank immediately by trading every good player for nothing.

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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2013, 10:02:34 AM »

 Kind of a wild Idea, but if the the Hawks are going to loose him anyway. Why not get a top Point guard in return next year.  BTW, The advertisements are already giving me a headache.
Smith wanted to play here because of Rondo. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense.
Plus you don't want to build around Josh Smith. If you have Rondo around maybe Smith is worth it as your second star, but just Smith? No thanks.
Bulding around Smith is pretty much the same as building around Rondo. Having both of them may get you somewhere, but having one of them? Definitely not enough.
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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2013, 10:33:52 AM »
I'd rather just trade Rondo to Atlanta

How about this

Rondo, Terry, Collins for Williams, Korver, Jenkins, Petro, 2013 1st (HOU), 2014 1st (ATL)

or

Rondo, Lee, Collins for Williams, Korver, Petro, Teague

bad trade for me
why.  Rondo is out probably a year and he won't be 100% (if ever) until the start of the 2014-15 season, which is the last year of his contract.  And sure Rondo will play again, but his style of play is based on athleticism, speed, etc. so there is a very good chance Rondo will never be close to the player he is ever again, and he can't shoot so he can't morph his game well into a different type of player.  Sure if you trade him, there is a risk he comes back better than ever, but at least in both of those trades, the C's are getting some real value back for him.
Adrian Peterson had his knee better in less than a year. Iman Shumpert too. Rose is about to come back in 9 months time.

A torn ACL is no longer a year recovery and another year to get back to your previous baseline. It takes about 9 months now. If Rondo gets his surgery by mid February, I would expect him back full strength by Christmas of the 2012-13 season at the very latest.

Really think you are stretching it to think Rondo isn't back to normal until 2014-15.
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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2013, 10:35:15 AM »

 Kind of a wild Idea, but if the the Hawks are going to loose him anyway. Why not get a top Point guard in return next year.  BTW, The advertisements are already giving me a headache.
Smith wanted to play here because of Rondo. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense.
Plus you don't want to build around Josh Smith. If you have Rondo around maybe Smith is worth it as your second star, but just Smith? No thanks.
Bulding around Smith is pretty much the same as building around Rondo. Having both of them may get you somewhere, but having one of them? Definitely not enough.

  That statement applies to pretty much everyone in the league besides LeBron.

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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2013, 10:48:29 AM »

 Kind of a wild Idea, but if the the Hawks are going to loose him anyway. Why not get a top Point guard in return next year.  BTW, The advertisements are already giving me a headache.
Smith wanted to play here because of Rondo. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense.
Plus you don't want to build around Josh Smith. If you have Rondo around maybe Smith is worth it as your second star, but just Smith? No thanks.
Bulding around Smith is pretty much the same as building around Rondo. Having both of them may get you somewhere, but having one of them? Definitely not enough.

  That statement applies to pretty much everyone in the league besides LeBron.
Nope, it doesn't. Building around Irving, Aldridge, or Curry -- to name a few, and without going into obvious names such as Chris Paul or Carmelo Anthony -- is something I'd much rather prefer.
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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #25 on: January 31, 2013, 10:51:33 AM »

 Kind of a wild Idea, but if the the Hawks are going to loose him anyway. Why not get a top Point guard in return next year.  BTW, The advertisements are already giving me a headache.
Smith wanted to play here because of Rondo. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense.
Plus you don't want to build around Josh Smith. If you have Rondo around maybe Smith is worth it as your second star, but just Smith? No thanks.
Bulding around Smith is pretty much the same as building around Rondo. Having both of them may get you somewhere, but having one of them? Definitely not enough.

  That statement applies to pretty much everyone in the league besides LeBron.
Nope, it doesn't. Building around Irving, Aldridge, or Curry -- to name a few, and without going into obvious names such as Chris Paul or Carmelo Anthony -- is something I'd much rather prefer.

  The fact that you'd prefer to build around them doesn't mean that you can win with them without a very good supporting cast.

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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #26 on: January 31, 2013, 10:54:54 AM »
I'd rather just trade Rondo to Atlanta

How about this

Rondo, Terry, Collins for Williams, Korver, Jenkins, Petro, 2013 1st (HOU), 2014 1st (ATL)

or

Rondo, Lee, Collins for Williams, Korver, Petro, Teague

bad trade for me
why.  Rondo is out probably a year and he won't be 100% (if ever) until the start of the 2014-15 season, which is the last year of his contract.  And sure Rondo will play again, but his style of play is based on athleticism, speed, etc. so there is a very good chance Rondo will never be close to the player he is ever again, and he can't shoot so he can't morph his game well into a different type of player.  Sure if you trade him, there is a risk he comes back better than ever, but at least in both of those trades, the C's are getting some real value back for him.
Because not everyone thinks the best way forward is to tank immediately by trading every good player for nothing.
Williams, Jenkins, and 2 picks or Williams and Teague are nothing?  You and I have greatly different definitions of that word.
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Re: How bout Rondo for Josh Smith
« Reply #27 on: January 31, 2013, 10:56:01 AM »

 Kind of a wild Idea, but if the the Hawks are going to loose him anyway. Why not get a top Point guard in return next year.  BTW, The advertisements are already giving me a headache.
Smith wanted to play here because of Rondo. Otherwise, it doesn't make much sense.
Plus you don't want to build around Josh Smith. If you have Rondo around maybe Smith is worth it as your second star, but just Smith? No thanks.
Bulding around Smith is pretty much the same as building around Rondo. Having both of them may get you somewhere, but having one of them? Definitely not enough.

  That statement applies to pretty much everyone in the league besides LeBron.
Nope, it doesn't. Building around Irving, Aldridge, or Curry -- to name a few, and without going into obvious names such as Chris Paul or Carmelo Anthony -- is something I'd much rather prefer.

  The fact that you'd prefer to build around them doesn't mean that you can win with them without a very good supporting cast.
If you define "supporting cast" as a collection of lesser players, I see much better chance to build one around the players I mentioned rather than with Rondo or Smith.
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