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Calderon a possible buyout candidate?
« on: January 30, 2013, 09:16:53 PM »

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Do you see Detroit buying out Calderon? I wonder if he would like playing in green. Would be a nice addition for the vet min.

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Do you see Detroit buying out Calderon? I wonder if he would like playing in green. Would be a nice addition for the vet min.

Why in the world would they do that? Any reasoning or just because you think it'd be good for us?
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I could see Detroit buying our Calderon if they didnt see any upside in him remaining in Detroit.

But, I have a different question; if Detroit buys out Calderon, could he resign in Toronto?

He was traded by the raptors to the grizzlies, then by the grizzlies to the pistons.

So if he were bought out, would he be restricted from resigning with Memphis, Toronto, or both under the CBA?

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« Reply #3 on: January 30, 2013, 09:22:48 PM »

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Maybe they want to save some cash. I don't see Calderon being in their plans for the future. Seems like filler for cap space.

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« Reply #4 on: January 30, 2013, 09:25:30 PM »

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I could see Detroit buying our Calderon if they didnt see any upside in him remaining in Detroit.

But, I have a different question; if Detroit buys out Calderon, could he resign in Toronto?

He was traded by the raptors to the grizzlies, then by the grizzlies to the pistons.

So if he were bought out, would he be restricted from resigning with Memphis, Toronto, or both under the CBA?

Not surprisingly, Larry Coon has described precisely this scenario:

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Interestingly, by the letter of the rule a player could be traded to a third team, waived by the third team, and be eligible to re-sign with his original team before the waiting period expires. However, the league likely would disallow such signing per the general prohibition on circumvention (see question number 103) if this was done in order to circumvent the rule


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I could see Detroit buying our Calderon if they didnt see any upside in him remaining in Detroit.

But, I have a different question; if Detroit buys out Calderon, could he resign in Toronto?

He was traded by the raptors to the grizzlies, then by the grizzlies to the pistons.

So if he were bought out, would he be restricted from resigning with Memphis, Toronto, or both under the CBA?

Not surprisingly, Larry Coon has described precisely this scenario:

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Interestingly, by the letter of the rule a player could be traded to a third team, waived by the third team, and be eligible to re-sign with his original team before the waiting period expires. However, the league likely would disallow such signing per the general prohibition on circumvention (see question number 103) if this was done in order to circumvent the rule

I could see some legitimate complaint from the Raptors if this was disallowed. The trade from Memphis was a legitimate one, and did not benefit the Raptors in any way. It would be hard to show any kind of evidence that it was done to circumvent the rule.

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« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2013, 09:35:25 PM »

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I could see Detroit buying our Calderon if they didnt see any upside in him remaining in Detroit.

But, I have a different question; if Detroit buys out Calderon, could he resign in Toronto?

He was traded by the raptors to the grizzlies, then by the grizzlies to the pistons.

So if he were bought out, would he be restricted from resigning with Memphis, Toronto, or both under the CBA?

Not surprisingly, Larry Coon has described precisely this scenario:

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Interestingly, by the letter of the rule a player could be traded to a third team, waived by the third team, and be eligible to re-sign with his original team before the waiting period expires. However, the league likely would disallow such signing per the general prohibition on circumvention (see question number 103) if this was done in order to circumvent the rule

I could see some legitimate complaint from the Raptors if this was disallowed. The trade from Memphis was a legitimate one, and did not benefit the Raptors in any way. It would be hard to show any kind of evidence that it was done to circumvent the rule.

Useless talk, seeing as Toronto traded Calderon away because they already had Lowry and didn't need Calderon anymore. Signing him again would be rather pointless.
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« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2013, 09:37:44 PM »

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I could see Detroit buying our Calderon if they didnt see any upside in him remaining in Detroit.

But, I have a different question; if Detroit buys out Calderon, could he resign in Toronto?

He was traded by the raptors to the grizzlies, then by the grizzlies to the pistons.

So if he were bought out, would he be restricted from resigning with Memphis, Toronto, or both under the CBA?

I don't think Toronto can pick him right back up after a trade. I think its one of the new rules, keeping teams from trading, getting good players for their good players and then just resigning them a week later after the team buys them out.

Could be wrong, but Im pretty sure.

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I could see Detroit buying our Calderon if they didnt see any upside in him remaining in Detroit.

But, I have a different question; if Detroit buys out Calderon, could he resign in Toronto?

He was traded by the raptors to the grizzlies, then by the grizzlies to the pistons.

So if he were bought out, would he be restricted from resigning with Memphis, Toronto, or both under the CBA?

Not surprisingly, Larry Coon has described precisely this scenario:

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Interestingly, by the letter of the rule a player could be traded to a third team, waived by the third team, and be eligible to re-sign with his original team before the waiting period expires. However, the league likely would disallow such signing per the general prohibition on circumvention (see question number 103) if this was done in order to circumvent the rule

I could see some legitimate complaint from the Raptors if this was disallowed. The trade from Memphis was a legitimate one, and did not benefit the Raptors in any way. It would be hard to show any kind of evidence that it was done to circumvent the rule.

Useless talk, seeing as Toronto traded Calderon away because they already had Lowry and didn't need Calderon anymore. Signing him again would be rather pointless.

I think they'd take him back if all it cost was a contract.  They reportedly like him better than Lowry.

They made the trade to get Gay, not to get away from Calderon.  That said, I'm sure there are better options for Calderon than to go back to Toronto.


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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2013, 09:44:34 PM »

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I could see Detroit buying our Calderon if they didnt see any upside in him remaining in Detroit.

But, I have a different question; if Detroit buys out Calderon, could he resign in Toronto?

He was traded by the raptors to the grizzlies, then by the grizzlies to the pistons.

So if he were bought out, would he be restricted from resigning with Memphis, Toronto, or both under the CBA?

Not surprisingly, Larry Coon has described precisely this scenario:

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Interestingly, by the letter of the rule a player could be traded to a third team, waived by the third team, and be eligible to re-sign with his original team before the waiting period expires. However, the league likely would disallow such signing per the general prohibition on circumvention (see question number 103) if this was done in order to circumvent the rule

I could see some legitimate complaint from the Raptors if this was disallowed. The trade from Memphis was a legitimate one, and did not benefit the Raptors in any way. It would be hard to show any kind of evidence that it was done to circumvent the rule.

Useless talk, seeing as Toronto traded Calderon away because they already had Lowry and didn't need Calderon anymore. Signing him again would be rather pointless.

I think they'd take him back if all it cost was a contract.  They reportedly like him better than Lowry.

They made the trade to get Gay, not to get away from Calderon.  That said, I'm sure there are better options for Calderon than to go back to Toronto.

I've read multiple reports saying the Raptors organization prefers Lowry over Calderon.
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I've read multiple reports saying the Raptors organization prefers Lowry over Calderon.

I think I've read reports that the front office was split over who they preferred.
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I've read multiple reports saying the Raptors organization prefers Lowry over Calderon.

Ken Berger recently reported the opposite:

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/21614044/postups-whether-dealing-gasol-howard-or-standing-pat-lakers-in-bind



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I could see Detroit buying our Calderon if they didnt see any upside in him remaining in Detroit.

But, I have a different question; if Detroit buys out Calderon, could he resign in Toronto?

He was traded by the raptors to the grizzlies, then by the grizzlies to the pistons.

So if he were bought out, would he be restricted from resigning with Memphis, Toronto, or both under the CBA?

I don't think Toronto can pick him right back up after a trade. I think its one of the new rules, keeping teams from trading, getting good players for their good players and then just resigning them a week later after the team buys them out.

Could be wrong, but Im pretty sure.

The rule, as I understand it (and backed by the Coons quote from Roy above) is that it only limits the most recent team to trade away the player. Since the trade went Calderon to Memphis, then Memphis to Detroit, techinically I believe Toronto could pick him up after the buyout.

This is of course assuming the NBA doesn't just veto the whole thing.

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« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2013, 10:00:01 PM »

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this is from HoopsHype:
 
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PIstons came close on Calderon on draft day 2011. Toronto pulled out when Valanciunas fell to them. They obviously like his PG skills.

looks like they like him, and will probably keep him.

 

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