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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2013, 12:31:25 PM »
Everyone thought Gay would get a max contract offer as a RFA. What surprised people is that the Grizzlies didn't let him get that offer and just match it, instead they offered the max themselves.

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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2013, 12:33:25 PM »
Fans' worst nightmare are cheap owners.

I'd understand if the team is losing money. And I know Memphis is a small market, but I doubt they are losing money.
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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2013, 12:33:58 PM »
I feel for Kings fans

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Very good point. More so than Memphis fans.
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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2013, 12:35:51 PM »
Who knows how much sway Hollinger actually has, but I guarantee he's telling everyone who'll listen that paying ~$54 million for the next 3 years to a guy with a below-average PER is not a good strategy. 

And honestly, the Grizzlies had the most success in franchise history when Gay was out with an injury, so I don't feel too bad for them.  Losing all those role players might be a bigger blow than trading Gay.

Agreed.  They looked at their best with Battier at SF.  Conley / Allen / Randolph / Gasol is good enough to be competitive.  They just need a fairly deep cast of role players to back them up, something they don't have right now.

Except battier was a different era altogether for Memphis..oj mayo and tony Allen flourished when gay was out and they made the second round
The team flourished, Mayo not at all. He continued to shoot at 40% and get just 22 MPG like he had since Tony supplanted him in the rotation.

You're right about that...I'm just trying to remember who started at sf...I think maybe Sam young

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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2013, 12:36:25 PM »
Fans' worst nightmare are cheap owners.

I'd understand if the team is losing money. And I know Memphis is a small market, but I doubt they are losing money.


Not yet. 


But when the new cap penalties start working in, well, even the Lakers are talking about cutting payroll.





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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2013, 01:13:09 PM »
I feel for Rudy Gay if he gets traded to Toronto. Toronto may be a great place to live, and it may have financial advantages for a person earning a salary there,  but it just seems like a player is being exiled when he is sent there.

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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2013, 01:29:54 PM »
Everyone thought Gay would get a max contract offer as a RFA. What surprised people is that the Grizzlies didn't let him get that offer and just match it, instead they offered the max themselves.

Really, everyone?  I think there was shock that Gay got such a big deal.  Part of that was the shock of Heisley opening his checkbook but Gay becoming a max player also played a part.  Really, I have zero connections and am just guessing but I have a hard time believing that everyone thought Gay was worth a max deal or would get one.

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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2013, 01:32:59 PM »
I live in TN and know all about the Grizzlies.

I guarantee youIMO, after reading local news (everyday) and listening to talk radio (with Grizzly insiders) they would take Green and Bass for Gay if Ainge could find a 3rd team to absorb Bass's contract with expiring players for their 2nd unit.

I live in Boston, and I know all about the Celtics.  I don't guarantee you anything about what Danny would do. 

No offense, and I am sure you are more connected to the Grizz than most people on here.  But I think its going a bit far to suggest that you know whether or not they would accept a deal.


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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2013, 01:33:37 PM »
Everyone thought Gay would get a max contract offer as a RFA. What surprised people is that the Grizzlies didn't let him get that offer and just match it, instead they offered the max themselves.

Really, everyone?  I think there was shock that Gay got such a big deal.  Part of that was the shock of Heisley opening his checkbook but Gay becoming a max player also played a part.  Really, I have zero connections and am just guessing but I have a hard time believing that everyone thought Gay was worth a max deal or would get one.

Its funny how there are so many players that get max deals when they dont deserve one. And then the guys that deserve max deals take a pay cut to help their teams more.
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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2013, 01:35:09 PM »
Everyone thought Gay would get a max contract offer as a RFA. What surprised people is that the Grizzlies didn't let him get that offer and just match it, instead they offered the max themselves.

Really, everyone?  I think there was shock that Gay got such a big deal.  Part of that was the shock of Heisley opening his checkbook but Gay becoming a max player also played a part.  Really, I have zero connections and am just guessing but I have a hard time believing that everyone thought Gay was worth a max deal or would get one.
A max deal from your own team is a bigger deal (longer term) than one you can get in FA. So yes people were shocked with the deal Memphis gave him. But it was expected he'd get offered the max for a RFA and that Memphis would match.

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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2013, 01:35:36 PM »
I live in TN and know all about the Grizzlies.

I guarantee youIMO, after reading local news (everyday) and listening to talk radio (with Grizzly insiders) they would take Green and Bass for Gay if Ainge could find a 3rd team to absorb Bass's contract with expiring players for their 2nd unit.

I live in Boston, and I know all about the Celtics.  I don't guarantee you anything about what Danny would do. 

No offense, and I am sure you are more connected to the Grizz than most people on here.  But I think its going a bit far to suggest that you know whether or not they would accept a deal.


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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2013, 01:37:41 PM »
I live in TN and know all about the Grizzlies.

I guarantee youIMO, after reading local news (everyday) and listening to talk radio (with Grizzly insiders) they would take Green and Bass for Gay if Ainge could find a 3rd team to absorb Bass's contract with expiring players for their 2nd unit.

I live in Boston, and I know all about the Celtics.  I don't guarantee you anything about what Danny would do. 

No offense, and I am sure you are more connected to the Grizz than most people on here.  But I think its going a bit far to suggest that you know whether or not they would accept a deal.


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Much better.  Sorry, to pick on you, but its a pet peeve of mine.

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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2013, 01:39:30 PM »
But it is the cost in keeping a team in a small market.



It can be this or watch the team leave for another city.

Well, I'd say Memphis isn't really an NBA-worthy city anyway. And with teams in Charlotte, Atlanta, New Orleans, and OKC, the South had enough teams already before the Grizz arrived.

But now I'm getting started on the whole contraction question (not to mention which teams deserve which nicknames)!  ;D
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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2013, 01:46:01 PM »
But it is the cost in keeping a team in a small market.



It can be this or watch the team leave for another city.

Well, I'd say Memphis isn't really an NBA-worthy city anyway. And with teams in Charlotte, Atlanta, New Orleans, and OKC, the South had enough teams already before the Grizz arrived.

But now I'm getting started on the whole contraction question (not to mention which teams deserve which nicknames)!  ;D

I agree. It's pretty easy to get a $5 ticket to a Grizzlies game. You just got to by a monthly nose bleed pack.

The main problem is Memphis is they are in a central time zone and play alot of west coast games. They start playing when many people are going to bed.

They should add another western team (Seattle) and move Memphis to the East.
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Re: I feel for Memphis fans and players
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2013, 01:50:28 PM »
But it is the cost in keeping a team in a small market.



It can be this or watch the team leave for another city.

Well, I'd say Memphis isn't really an NBA-worthy city anyway. And with teams in Charlotte, Atlanta, New Orleans, and OKC, the South had enough teams already before the Grizz arrived.

But now I'm getting started on the whole contraction question (not to mention which teams deserve which nicknames)!  ;D

I agree. It's pretty easy to get a $5 ticket to a Grizzlies game. You just got to by a monthly nose bleed pack.

The main problem is Memphis is they are in a central time zone and play alot of west coast games. They start playing when many people are going to bed.

They should add another western team (Seattle) and move Memphis to the East.

Alright, you opened the door!  ;D ...

Eliminate Toronto, Charlotte, Memphis, and Milwaukee.

Move New Orleans or Minnesota to the East to rebalance the conferences.

Return "Jazz" to New Orleans, give "Grizzlies" to Utah, and change Washington back to "Bullets."
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