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Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?

Yes, I Trade Paul Pierce Contract So That We Can Resign Him
13 (18.3%)
Yes, I Trade Kevin Garnett Contract So That We Can Resign Him
4 (5.6%)
Yes, I Trade Rajan Rondo Contract So That We Can Resign Him
6 (8.5%)
No, He Don't Deserve That Money, Take It Somewhere
48 (67.6%)

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Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2013, 09:44:58 AM »

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I think Josh Smith is worth around $15 million a year. So a $75 million over five years deal.

Still, if my team had enough flexibility to add another star or two, I'd give J.Smith the money and pay the luxury tax.

Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2013, 09:48:27 AM »

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I'd do this trade in a heartbeat (though Atlanta would not)

Smith, Korver, Petro

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Green, Bass, Lee, Melo, 2013 1st, 2015 1st, 2014 2nd (BOS), 2014 2nd (BRKN)

If they are dumping Josh Smith at this late stage, with the money he is demanding being well-known and a key side issue to completing any trade, Atlanta may not do better than that.

It's a low offer but it could be competitive.

Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2013, 09:51:02 AM »

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I think Josh Smith is worth around $15 million a year. So a $75 million over five years deal.

Still, if my team had enough flexibility to add another star or two, I'd give J.Smith the money and pay the luxury tax.

That is way to much.  At 15 million, the player needs to be a real positive game changer both ways.  A top 1 or  2 player on a team.

Josh Smith isn't that type of player. 

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Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2013, 09:52:17 AM »

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I say be patient.



If they just dump Smith, it likely will not be long until Hortford wants out.  That's the guy the Celtics should go after. 

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Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2013, 09:55:42 AM »

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I think Josh Smith is worth around $15 million a year. So a $75 million over five years deal.

Still, if my team had enough flexibility to add another star or two, I'd give J.Smith the money and pay the luxury tax.
Ditto

Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2013, 09:58:54 AM »

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No, you pay a guy max money when he brings it every night.
Not to a guy who brings it when he feels like it.

Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2013, 10:30:55 AM »

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  The real questions are whether you could get him to stop taking so many outside shots and would he be worth a max contract if he was a significantly more efficient scorer.

If Smith could get better shot selection, I MIGHT consider him a max player.  He's such a bonehead.

  To put it in "Courtney Lee" terms, he'd fit in better with his team if he cut way back on the long jumpers, but would he be happy with his role on the team?

What do you mean by "Courtney Lee" terms?  We brought Lee in to spread the floor and play D.  Right now, he can't hit anything.  We need him to take long jumpers because that's what he's supposed to be good at.

Smith's job here would be rim protector first, post option second, and rebounder third.  I think he'd be okay with it at first, but he'd undoubtedly step outside at some point.  I think it's just in his nature (taking jumpers), and that's a shame because if he learned to play inside he'd be a beast.

  Just a snarky reference to the "Courtney Lee is unhappy with his role on the team" thread.

we will see what he can bring rondo is out 1 year...lets see lee

Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2013, 10:34:50 AM »

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No max contract

Get him if he wants to play for workable amount

Otherwise pass

Yeah I go here. Of course he wants Max money. What player of his caliber wouldn't. But thats why there are negotiations and I think that the appeal of playing for the Celts alongside Rondo Garnett and Pierce would take his mind of a Max deal. At least I would think it would.
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Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2013, 10:39:39 AM »

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No max contract

Get him if he wants to play for workable amount

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Yeah I go here. Of course he wants Max money. What player of his caliber wouldn't. But thats why there are negotiations and I think that the appeal of playing for the Celts alongside Rondo Garnett and Pierce would take his mind of a Max deal. At least I would think it would.

I agree, if we get him on the team, I think it is pretty much a guarantee he would resign to play with Rondo. Doubt he can get a max contract from anyone , but even if he could , would he leave the c's and rondo for an extra 2 mil a year to play with a team like Phoenix?

I say get him in here and see how he fits with the team.

4 years 12-14 mil per sounds about right

Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2013, 10:40:58 AM »

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No max contract

Get him if he wants to play for workable amount

Otherwise pass

Yeah I go here. Of course he wants Max money. What player of his caliber wouldn't. But thats why there are negotiations and I think that the appeal of playing for the Celts alongside Rondo Garnett and Pierce would take his mind of a Max deal. At least I would think it would.

I agree, if we get him on the team, I think it is pretty much a guarantee he would resign to play with Rondo. Doubt he can get a max contract from anyone , but even if he could , would he leave the c's and rondo for an extra 2 mil a year to play with a team like Phoenix?

I say get him in here and see how he fits with the team.

4 years 12-14 mil per sounds about right

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Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2013, 10:46:51 AM »

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  The real questions are whether you could get him to stop taking so many outside shots and would he be worth a max contract if he was a significantly more efficient scorer.

If Smith could get better shot selection, I MIGHT consider him a max player.  He's such a bonehead.

  To put it in "Courtney Lee" terms, he'd fit in better with his team if he cut way back on the long jumpers, but would he be happy with his role on the team?

What do you mean by "Courtney Lee" terms?  We brought Lee in to spread the floor and play D.  Right now, he can't hit anything.  We need him to take long jumpers because that's what he's supposed to be good at.

Smith's job here would be rim protector first, post option second, and rebounder third.  I think he'd be okay with it at first, but he'd undoubtedly step outside at some point.  I think it's just in his nature (taking jumpers), and that's a shame because if he learned to play inside he'd be a beast.

What are you talking about--Lee's been hitting almost .400 from the 3 for the last two months.  Even counting his tough first month, he's #1 in FT% and #3 in overall FG% and 3PT% among their regular rotation players?


Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2013, 10:51:02 AM »

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No max contract

Get him if he wants to play for workable amount

Otherwise pass

Yeah I go here. Of course he wants Max money. What player of his caliber wouldn't. But thats why there are negotiations and I think that the appeal of playing for the Celts alongside Rondo Garnett and Pierce would take his mind of a Max deal. At least I would think it would.

I agree, if we get him on the team, I think it is pretty much a guarantee he would resign to play with Rondo. Doubt he can get a max contract from anyone , but even if he could , would he leave the c's and rondo for an extra 2 mil a year to play with a team like Phoenix?

I say get him in here and see how he fits with the team.

4 years 12-14 mil per sounds about right

celtics are over the salary cap and if i where to choose, i'd prefer green to stay,

on the note people are saying he can guard lebron, 1 on 1? its a no! not even green

but by not taking him is the best idea for me, so that we can resign pierce kg rondo bradley sully, and when maybe bass or lee or terry or green, we can sign maybe 2 sg who are better maybe reddick and jennings

Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2013, 10:52:03 AM »

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  The real questions are whether you could get him to stop taking so many outside shots and would he be worth a max contract if he was a significantly more efficient scorer.

If Smith could get better shot selection, I MIGHT consider him a max player.  He's such a bonehead.

  To put it in "Courtney Lee" terms, he'd fit in better with his team if he cut way back on the long jumpers, but would he be happy with his role on the team?

What do you mean by "Courtney Lee" terms?  We brought Lee in to spread the floor and play D.  Right now, he can't hit anything.  We need him to take long jumpers because that's what he's supposed to be good at.

Smith's job here would be rim protector first, post option second, and rebounder third.  I think he'd be okay with it at first, but he'd undoubtedly step outside at some point.  I think it's just in his nature (taking jumpers), and that's a shame because if he learned to play inside he'd be a beast.

What are you talking about--Lee's been hitting almost .400 from the 3 for the last two months.  Even counting his tough first month, he's #1 in FT% and #3 in overall FG% and 3PT% among their regular rotation players?

yes he has high shooting % for the last two months, but he is only making1 3 pointer a game and taking 1 free throw a game.......

Thats 4 points, that doesn't mean he spaces the floor , it just means he has such few attempts that is % is high

Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2013, 11:03:48 AM »

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  The real questions are whether you could get him to stop taking so many outside shots and would he be worth a max contract if he was a significantly more efficient scorer.

If Smith could get better shot selection, I MIGHT consider him a max player.  He's such a bonehead.

  To put it in "Courtney Lee" terms, he'd fit in better with his team if he cut way back on the long jumpers, but would he be happy with his role on the team?

What do you mean by "Courtney Lee" terms?  We brought Lee in to spread the floor and play D.  Right now, he can't hit anything.  We need him to take long jumpers because that's what he's supposed to be good at.

Smith's job here would be rim protector first, post option second, and rebounder third.  I think he'd be okay with it at first, but he'd undoubtedly step outside at some point.  I think it's just in his nature (taking jumpers), and that's a shame because if he learned to play inside he'd be a beast.

What are you talking about--Lee's been hitting almost .400 from the 3 for the last two months.  Even counting his tough first month, he's #1 in FT% and #3 in overall FG% and 3PT% among their regular rotation players?

yes he has high shooting % for the last two months, but he is only making1 3 pointer a game and taking 1 free throw a game.......

Thats 4 points, that doesn't mean he spaces the floor , it just means he has such few attempts that is % is high

he just said it's because of rondo, holding the ball for let say 15 seconds? while lee is waiting to attack the basket, lee is a cutter guy style

Re: Josh Smith On The Trading Block, Is He Worth 94$ Million Max Contract?
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2013, 11:05:39 AM »

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No max contract

Get him if he wants to play for workable amount

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Yeah I go here. Of course he wants Max money. What player of his caliber wouldn't. But thats why there are negotiations and I think that the appeal of playing for the Celts alongside Rondo Garnett and Pierce would take his mind of a Max deal. At least I would think it would.

I agree, if we get him on the team, I think it is pretty much a guarantee he would resign to play with Rondo. Doubt he can get a max contract from anyone , but even if he could , would he leave the c's and rondo for an extra 2 mil a year to play with a team like Phoenix?

I say get him in here and see how he fits with the team.

4 years 12-14 mil per sounds about right

12-14 mill sounds right to me. I would think PP would be in a package to trade for him, but I'm willing to try this line up.

Rondo
Bradley
Green
Smith
KG

Scoring would be hard but the D could be unreal. Would need some shooters off the bench and hope Melo could play 1-15 mins a game.