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Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #90 on: January 29, 2013, 10:46:13 PM »

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I think this team has been underachieving for a variety of reasons and Rondo's play and Pierce's play,  are two of them, though, IMHO, they are down on the bottom of the list.

One of the things on the top of the list is the players Danny put together to make up this team. Terry and Barbosa are players that want the ball in their hands and want to score, sometimes to the detriment of a team offense. Now we have Lee and Bass complaining of touches or the offense. We also have a player that left for personal reasons and a big who is useless and another that can never stay healthy.

I think Danny messed up this summer. He never got a decent backup big man worth a [dang]. Several players in the locker room were expecting to continue to play their game, regardless of how the Celtics functioned. Danny must have thought that if KG, PP and RA would sacrifice their games to make a team better than others would too. Obviously he was wrong.

I see a house cleaning in this team's future.

ORRRRRRRRR, we can try and coax Rondo to stop pounding the ball for 20 seconds of the offense, and move the ball like basketball was intended to be played, and get the most of out this team.

How a team with Terry isn't running pick-and-roll plays with KG constantly is beyond me.

  It's worth pointing out that, if you check shot clock usage on 82games, the percentage of our shots that we take in the first 15 seconds of the shot clock is pretty much league average and the percentage of shots we take in the last 4 seconds of the shot clock looks like it's lower than most teams. Either Rondo doesn't pound the ball for 20 seconds very often or he's mastered time travel.
or maybe Rondo just misses Ray's perfected craft of squeezing the whole 24 for one shot.

Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #91 on: January 29, 2013, 10:46:14 PM »

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Ok Courtney Lee, your excuse for underacheiving so far was Rondo pounding the ball. Now I guess its put up or shut up time because your excuse is out the window now!

Good defense, career high FG%... hardly underachieving.

Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #92 on: January 29, 2013, 10:48:01 PM »

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So, so disappointed in you, Celticsblog.

7 pages into a thread responding to "unnamed sources" and the following hasn't happened:

1. No one has posted the hilarious Chris Broussard jpeg that gets trotted out whenever "unnamed sources" comes up

2. More importantly, no one has considered that the "unnamed sources" are Celtics officials trying to stir the pot and drive up trade buzz around Lee by "leaking" information about friction between Lee and Rondo

Shame, shame, shame.
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Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #93 on: January 29, 2013, 10:49:18 PM »

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2. More importantly, no one has considered that the "unnamed sources" are Celtics officials trying to stir the pot and drive up trade buzz around Lee by "leaking" information about friction between Lee and Rondo

How would planting the seed that Lee is a malcontent and wants out of Boston increase his trade value?


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Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #94 on: January 29, 2013, 10:55:22 PM »

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Ok Courtney Lee, your excuse for underacheiving so far was Rondo pounding the ball. Now I guess its put up or shut up time because your excuse is out the window now!

Good defense, career high FG%... hardly underachieving.
this. lee played hard since day 1 in green.

Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #95 on: January 29, 2013, 10:58:53 PM »

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Man, i hate rumors.

Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #96 on: January 29, 2013, 11:00:39 PM »

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The extent to which I don't care about Courtney Lee's opinion on the matter is legendary.

Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #97 on: January 29, 2013, 11:08:14 PM »

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The extent to which I don't care about Courtney Lee's opinion on the matter is legendary.

Bravo...TP!

Courtney Lee can pound sand if he doesn't like it.  I really hope this is just a "false rumor" because he was actually starting to grow on me.

Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #98 on: January 29, 2013, 11:13:09 PM »

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1.  This rumor's probably bogus.

2.  If it's true, Lee is probably frustrated that the team is losing.

3.  How about you start hitting more threes, Courtney?  Maybe Rondo would've passed it to you more if you would stop bricking from the corner, your supposed hot spot.

Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #99 on: January 29, 2013, 11:17:25 PM »

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2. More importantly, no one has considered that the "unnamed sources" are Celtics officials trying to stir the pot and drive up trade buzz around Lee by "leaking" information about friction between Lee and Rondo

How would planting the seed that Lee is a malcontent and wants out of Boston increase his trade value?

Elementary, Roy. Because it gives a concrete reason for Lee's underperformance. Trade him to a non-Rondo-led team, Lee will magically play better.
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Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #100 on: January 29, 2013, 11:24:15 PM »

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1.  This rumor's probably bogus.

2.  If it's true, Lee is probably frustrated that the team is losing.

3.  How about you start hitting more threes, Courtney?  Maybe Rondo would've passed it to you more if you would stop bricking from the corner, your supposed hot spot.

Of course, all three are referencing Lee. Never thought of blaming Rondo, huh?
Lee has been playing just like we wanted him to when we traded for him. His threes have been going IN, maybe Rajon is at fault this time. Who knows? But it certainly isn't all Lee's fault. He's been outstanding,
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Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #101 on: January 29, 2013, 11:26:54 PM »

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I think this team has been underachieving for a variety of reasons and Rondo's play and Pierce's play,  are two of them, though, IMHO, they are down on the bottom of the list.

One of the things on the top of the list is the players Danny put together to make up this team. Terry and Barbosa are players that want the ball in their hands and want to score, sometimes to the detriment of a team offense. Now we have Lee and Bass complaining of touches or the offense. We also have a player that left for personal reasons and a big who is useless and another that can never stay healthy.

I think Danny messed up this summer. He never got a decent backup big man worth a [dang]. Several players in the locker room were expecting to continue to play their game, regardless of how the Celtics functioned. Danny must have thought that if KG, PP and RA would sacrifice their games to make a team better than others would too. Obviously he was wrong.

I see a house cleaning in this team's future.

nah I disagree. I think Doc messed up.

Doc has been saying since forever that he wanted to run more and wanted more athleticism because the Big 3 or 4 couldn't close out games by themselves. This is when you have a team who's bench consists of Ryan Hollins, Greg Steimsa, Marquise, Dooling, Peaches, that Sean guy (lol) and Wilcox. Not a bunch of freaks of nature there.

so DA went out and got what Doc wanted. But Doc just assumed he could run and all that with the system he had but that's an untruth. Especially with the players he has.

Like I said. And I will continue to say. This team needed a shake up to get Docs attention. This could be a blessing in disguise because right now Doc is saying all the right things (doesn't mean he will do it).

Take the 2nd unit for example. Best unit we got. Why? They run. They play loose. They have pace. Copy and paste that for all...we win games. We compete. We can *gasp* contend
I think this second unit is rather awful. They have some nice career stats but as a cohesive unit, they suck.

dude you are seriously rondo'd. I don't know how you can flip the initial issue back to Lee. If the rumor is true, and i believe it is, he just being honest. He has played in the league enough years to know what he doesn't appreciate on the court. Why does he get zero touches for 4 minutes and have to bust his azz off on defense?? The guy is not a defensive specialist naturally

If rondo by himself Jordan us to the top of the standings, then nobody can say anything bad. I'd trade lee in 2 seconds if this were the case. BUT its not the case and we have been losing all year 50 percent of the time. The celts team is packed with talent , enough so that we should be a top three team in the conference.

I guess once we go on a honest and simple winning streak continuing with beat sac tomorrow, you might slightly sober up from Rondo mania.

Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #102 on: January 29, 2013, 11:28:38 PM »

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Nick, you need to realize that even though Rondo may be the best PG in the league, he does not suit everyone perfectly and does possess flaws.
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Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #103 on: January 29, 2013, 11:31:15 PM »

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Nick, you need to realize that even though Rondo may be the best PG in the league, he does not suit everyone perfectly and does possess flaws.
True. But we should put people around him that fits. And if some scrub like Lee is not happy then he can suck it up or take a walk.
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Re: Report: Lee unhappy in Boston due to Rondo's play style
« Reply #104 on: January 29, 2013, 11:33:57 PM »

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I don't get why Zach Lowe would suddenly bring this up now...this "issue" has become irrelevant. Just seems like more unnecessary drama for the Celtics/Rondo.

Of course, all three are referencing Lee. Never thought of blaming Rondo, huh?
Lee has been playing just like we wanted him to when we traded for him. His threes have been going IN, maybe Rajon is at fault this time. Who knows? But it certainly isn't all Lee's fault. He's been outstanding,

Lee is shooting .329% on threes this season. That's...not good.