Author Topic: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?  (Read 1912 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« on: January 29, 2013, 05:46:07 PM »

Offline eja117

  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11267
  • Tommy Points: 593
    • Celtics Green myspace
In order to get citizenship in another country? I'm just curious how this goes and the pros and cons. Obviously I have some research to do.

Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2013, 05:48:09 PM »

Offline CelticConcourse

  • Paul Silas
  • ******
  • Posts: 6175
  • Tommy Points: 382
  • Jeff Green
In order to get citizenship in another country? I'm just curious how this goes and the pros and cons. Obviously I have some research to do.

From which country to which other country?
Jeff Green - Top 5 SF

[Kevin Garnett]
"I've always said J. Green is going to be one of the best players to ever play this game"

Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2013, 05:56:19 PM »

Offline eja117

  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11267
  • Tommy Points: 593
    • Celtics Green myspace
In order to get citizenship in another country? I'm just curious how this goes and the pros and cons. Obviously I have some research to do.

From which country to which other country?
From the US to a Euro country. I guess they all have different requirements, right?

Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2013, 06:12:34 PM »

Offline eja117

  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11267
  • Tommy Points: 593
    • Celtics Green myspace
Or to put this differently was this process easy, very hard, or in between?

Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2013, 06:31:33 PM »

Offline foulweatherfan

  • Frank Ramsey
  • ************
  • Posts: 12305
  • Tommy Points: 1448
I don't know anything about the process, but is dual citizenship not a possibility?  Or is renouncing American citizenship the main point of this?

Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2013, 06:34:57 PM »

Offline eja117

  • Ed Macauley
  • ***********
  • Posts: 11267
  • Tommy Points: 593
    • Celtics Green myspace
My understanding is that as of now dual isn't possible. I think there's a decent chance that at some point it will be. But part of me wonders if it doesn't change and I do that would I forfeit all my social security yadda yadda? Stuff like that. Granted social security won't be there for me, or it'll be worth a buck fiddy but that's not my point. I don't care that much about not voting here. I wonder if that would theoretically mean I have to leave the country. Etc

Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2013, 06:40:41 PM »

Offline CelticHooligan3

  • Bill Walton
  • *
  • Posts: 1073
  • Tommy Points: 130
Indeed i have. I was getting sick of paying so many taxes on the millions i've been raking in lately.


She copied me for the record...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2268405/Tina-Turner-renounces-American-citizenship-Swiss.html






Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2013, 06:45:57 PM »

Offline Bombastic Jones

  • Jared Sullinger
  • Posts: 358
  • Tommy Points: 53
my understanding is that you can have dual citizenship.  a lot depends on your circumstances. the state department link below 'explains' renouncing citizenship is simply a matter of filling out a form at a US embassy abroad.

some links:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
http://eudo-citizenship.eu/country-profiles

Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2013, 07:08:19 PM »

Offline mgent

  • Antoine Walker
  • *****
  • Posts: 5716
  • Tommy Points: 605
my understanding is that you can have dual citizenship.  a lot depends on your circumstances. the state department link below 'explains' renouncing citizenship is simply a matter of filling out a form at a US embassy abroad.

some links:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1753.html
http://eudo-citizenship.eu/country-profiles
I don't see why it wouldn't be possible.  Didn't Becky Hammon get dual citizenship with Russia?  I thought you had to be living/working in the country to apply for citizenship there though.

I really know nothing about this, sorry.
Philly:

Anderson Varejao    Tiago Splitter    Matt Bonner
David West    Kenyon Martin    Brad Miller
Andre Iguodala    Josh Childress    Marquis Daniels
Dwyane Wade    Leandro Barbosa
Kirk Hinrich    Toney Douglas   + the legendary Kevin McHale

Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2013, 03:14:18 PM »

Offline vgulab

  • Brad Stevens
  • Posts: 206
  • Tommy Points: 39
In order to get citizenship in another country? I'm just curious how this goes and the pros and cons. Obviously I have some research to do.

From which country to which other country?
From the US to a Euro country. I guess they all have different requirements, right?

Yes they all have different requirements, fox example Germany from what i know it's not possible to have dual citizenship, most EU countries do not allow dual citizenship or have a long list of pre-requirements before allowing dual citizenship. Italy and France are bigger eu countries that allow dual citizenship. I'm from Macedonia, small country in eu. My grandfather imigrated to USA 45 years a go and his wife, born and raised in USA just got Macedonian citizenship, but i guess you don't want macedonian citizenship hahaha. It's a poor country but pretty low taxes :)

Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2013, 03:27:20 PM »

Offline 4THQTR

  • Brandon Bass
  • Posts: 420
  • Tommy Points: 56
In order to get citizenship in another country? I'm just curious how this goes and the pros and cons. Obviously I have some research to do.

From which country to which other country?
From the US to a Euro country. I guess they all have different requirements, right?

Yes they all have different requirements, fox example Germany from what i know it's not possible to have dual citizenship, most EU countries do not allow dual citizenship or have a long list of pre-requirements before allowing dual citizenship. Italy and France are bigger eu countries that allow dual citizenship. I'm from Macedonia, small country in eu. My grandfather imigrated to USA 45 years a go and his wife, born and raised in USA just got Macedonian citizenship, but i guess you don't want macedonian citizenship hahaha. It's a poor country but pretty low taxes :)


I know quite a bunch of germans who have dual cituzenship, so that's not really true... But yes, there are some prerequirements. Most of them are country specific I believe, so it'll require some research.

The only guys I know that have renounced US citizenship are people who haven't grown up in the US and felt the negatives of keeping citizenship largely outweigh the positives.

Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2013, 03:38:23 PM »

Offline Moranis

  • Satch Sanders
  • *********
  • Posts: 9545
  • Tommy Points: 410
It depends on the country you want to get dual with.  The U.S. is ok with dual citizenship so you could do both from that end, so it would depend on the rules of the other country.
2014 Pick 2 Draft 18th pick of 20
Sacramento Kings
Starters - Isaiah Thomas, Eric Gordon, Jimmy Butler, Dirk Nowitzki, Demarcus Cousins
Bench - Kendall Marshall, Michael Carter-Williams, Vince Carter, Wesley Johnson, Marcus Morris, Miles Plumlee, Nerlens Noel

Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2013, 03:49:20 PM »

Offline D.o.s.

  • Don Nelson
  • ********
  • Posts: 8402
  • Tommy Points: 595
My understanding is that as of now dual isn't possible. I think there's a decent chance that at some point it will be. But part of me wonders if it doesn't change and I do that would I forfeit all my social security yadda yadda? Stuff like that. Granted social security won't be there for me, or it'll be worth a buck fiddy but that's not my point. I don't care that much about not voting here. I wonder if that would theoretically mean I have to leave the country. Etc

getting a dual citizenship is possible if you're born with it--I should know, I've got one. Beyond that it gets much, much harder, because gaining citizenship in an EU country (which is what I assume you meant by a Euro country) is not easy, much like gaining citizenship over here.

Now, I know when my Mom got her US citizenship, she had to renounce her previous one, but that was a decade+ ago and she was already here with my Dad--who was born here.

Just keep your head up and know it's going to probably be a long and arduous process.

And be careful, you might just end up a socialist! ;D
And when I'm rich and meet Bob Hope
We'll shoot some golf and shoot some dope

Quote
Can't read the entire thread but cone people.

Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2013, 04:49:14 PM »

Offline ACF

  • Danny Ainge
  • **********
  • Posts: 10710
  • Tommy Points: 1150
  • Respect the Shamrock

If you're really good at sports, eja, we'll take you.


Re: Anyone here ever renounce citizenship before?
« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2013, 04:51:29 PM »

Offline sofutomygaha

  • Don Chaney
  • *
  • Posts: 1540
  • Tommy Points: 208
Are you trying to help the Raptors with their Haddadi problem?

 

Hello! Guest

Welcome to the CelticsBlog Forums.

Welcome to CelticsBlog