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Offline ScoobyDoo

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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2013, 04:59:55 PM »
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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #31 on: January 29, 2013, 06:34:40 PM »
I was surprised how little we post up. 

Sully: 12-for-28 (42.9%)
Green:  15-for-54 (27.8%)
KG:  81-for-180 (45.0%)

That's 262 combined shot attempts, or about 6 post-up attempts per game for those three.  I think part of the reason we post-up relatively rarely is because our spacing has been terrible this year.  Additionally, it's just not a strength of a lot of our players; KG is our best player down low, but he doesn't like playing there.

Can someone provide context by supplying numbers for how much other teams are posting up this season and how much the Celtics have posted up in previous seasons?
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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #32 on: January 29, 2013, 06:44:21 PM »
Mainly because rondo can't shoot.  You need to surround rondo with jump shooting big men who can open up the middle for rondo drives

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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #33 on: January 29, 2013, 06:51:22 PM »
KG will not be able to make it through an entire season if he posts up often. His body won't be able to take the extra pounding and punishment that often times result from posting up.  KG, due to his physical limitations, has redefined his game by being a jump shooter with the occasional post up.
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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #34 on: January 29, 2013, 07:10:59 PM »
1.  We have no players willing to post up, other than Sully.

2.  Doc doesn't run plays for Sully, other than the occasional PNP or PNR (even rarer).

3.  Whoops, that's all we know.

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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #35 on: January 29, 2013, 09:16:02 PM »
I don't mind an occasional post up play, but personally I'm not in love with playing post up basketball for a large percentage of the offense. 

I find it ironic that folks complain so much about how stagnant the offense is when Rondo is "pounding the ball" at the top of the key, but seem to be overlooking the fact that going to a guy in the low post and clearing out and letting him go to work generally tends to result in fairly stagnant offense as well. 

I remember that being a fairly consistent complaint when we had Big Al in town. 
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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #36 on: January 29, 2013, 09:28:38 PM »
Mainly because rondo can't shoot.  You need to surround rondo with jump shooting big men who can open up the middle for rondo drives

  I'm guessing you missed all the games that Shaq and Perk were on the Celts. Too bad, we played some good ball at the time.

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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #37 on: January 29, 2013, 09:31:32 PM »
Mainly because rondo can't shoot.  You need to surround rondo with jump shooting big men who can open up the middle for rondo drives

Rondo can shoot, this season. He was one of the best mid range jump shot shooters in the NBA.
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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #38 on: January 29, 2013, 09:32:47 PM »
Mainly because rondo can't shoot.  You need to surround rondo with jump shooting big men who can open up the middle for rondo drives

Rondo can shoot, this season. He was one of the best mid range jump shot shooters in the NBA.

Then there are ALL jump shooters on this team... Bass, Bradley, Lee, Terry Pierce, Garnett, Green.
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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #39 on: January 29, 2013, 09:37:21 PM »
I'm not for driving it into the post all night - but every 2nd or 3rd time down the floor I'd like to get Sully, Pierce or Garnett into the post for a quick look, run some cutters by them, then kick it out if nothings happening.

But we have Sully, that's his strength - I'd at least give it a little more look. And he's a good passer as well.

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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #40 on: January 29, 2013, 09:47:49 PM »
I'm not for driving it into the post all night - but every 2nd or 3rd time down the floor I'd like to get Sully, Pierce or Garnett into the post for a quick look, run some cutters by them, then kick it out if nothings happening.

But we have Sully, that's his strength - I'd at least give it a little more look. And he's a good passer as well.
This team's biggest weakness is a lack of a post game and players willing to drive into the lane.

I agree. I would love to see this team do what you are suggesting and to start taking advantage of Sully's post game.
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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #41 on: January 29, 2013, 11:49:49 PM »
I don't mind an occasional post up play, but personally I'm not in love with playing post up basketball for a large percentage of the offense. 

I find it ironic that folks complain so much about how stagnant the offense is when Rondo is "pounding the ball" at the top of the key, but seem to be overlooking the fact that going to a guy in the low post and clearing out and letting him go to work generally tends to result in fairly stagnant offense as well. 

I remember that being a fairly consistent complaint when we had Big Al in town.
But.... but..... someone else would be pounding the ball other then that overrated Rondo!!!!!

sarcasm by the way.
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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #42 on: January 29, 2013, 11:56:36 PM »
I don't mind an occasional post up play, but personally I'm not in love with playing post up basketball for a large percentage of the offense. 

I find it ironic that folks complain so much about how stagnant the offense is when Rondo is "pounding the ball" at the top of the key, but seem to be overlooking the fact that going to a guy in the low post and clearing out and letting him go to work generally tends to result in fairly stagnant offense as well. 

I remember that being a fairly consistent complaint when we had Big Al in town.
But.... but..... someone else would be pounding the ball other then that overrated Rondo!!!!!

sarcasm by the way.

Whether you are a post up team, an isolation team, a pick and roll team, a running guys off off the ball screens (we do a little bit of all those things) team, pounding the ball happens in the NBA.  I challenge someone to show me an NBA team where the ball is consistently moving at all times and never sticking in one player's hands for the better part of a shot clock in the half court offense. 
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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2013, 12:00:12 AM »
I don't mind an occasional post up play, but personally I'm not in love with playing post up basketball for a large percentage of the offense. 

I find it ironic that folks complain so much about how stagnant the offense is when Rondo is "pounding the ball" at the top of the key, but seem to be overlooking the fact that going to a guy in the low post and clearing out and letting him go to work generally tends to result in fairly stagnant offense as well. 

I remember that being a fairly consistent complaint when we had Big Al in town.
But.... but..... someone else would be pounding the ball other then that overrated Rondo!!!!!

sarcasm by the way.

Whether you are a post up team, an isolation team, a pick and roll team, a running guys off off the ball screens (we do a little bit of all those things) team, pounding the ball happens in the NBA.  I challenge someone to show me an NBA team where the ball is consistently moving at all times and never sticking in one player's hands for the better part of a shot clock in the half court offense.
Oh, I agree with you 100%. I was just making fun of all the Rondo bashers here now.
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Re: Why don't we post up more?
« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2013, 12:03:34 AM »
I don't mind an occasional post up play, but personally I'm not in love with playing post up basketball for a large percentage of the offense. 

I find it ironic that folks complain so much about how stagnant the offense is when Rondo is "pounding the ball" at the top of the key, but seem to be overlooking the fact that going to a guy in the low post and clearing out and letting him go to work generally tends to result in fairly stagnant offense as well. 

I remember that being a fairly consistent complaint when we had Big Al in town.
But.... but..... someone else would be pounding the ball other then that overrated Rondo!!!!!

sarcasm by the way.

Whether you are a post up team, an isolation team, a pick and roll team, a running guys off off the ball screens (we do a little bit of all those things) team, pounding the ball happens in the NBA.  I challenge someone to show me an NBA team where the ball is consistently moving at all times and never sticking in one player's hands for the better part of a shot clock in the half court offense.
Oh, I agree with you 100%. I was just making fun of all the Rondo bashers here now.

Oh, I got that.  I wasn't arguing with you.  I was just adding to your point. 
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