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Offline nostar

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #150 on: January 30, 2013, 06:29:09 PM »
I wish all of you who are talking about the fit of Calderon would realize that the Pistons are taking him on so they can clear cap space. He's not a long term solution for them and they are not competing this year.

Memphis might have done okay. Daye and Davis are good (and cheap) prospects and Prince is on a great contract.

This was a good trade. Memphis got slightly worse on a talent level but they saved a boat load of cash. Toronto is doing a great job building a young and competitive team for the first time and Detroit is clearing out for younger players while clearing cap space.

Everybody does well here I think.

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #151 on: January 30, 2013, 06:35:09 PM »
In the Memphis system, they don't need their SF to do much more than play defense and hit open threes.

For those purposes, Prince is perfect - and costs much, much less than Gay.

Ed Davis is a nice throw-in who could help them off the bench or as an asset in another trade.  Overall, I like this deal for Memphis.


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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #152 on: January 30, 2013, 06:40:14 PM »
No more pierce for gay trade rumors

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #153 on: January 30, 2013, 06:44:16 PM »
Is Ed Davis a bad defender or something?

His numbers per 36 are very good.

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #154 on: January 30, 2013, 06:48:38 PM »
No more pierce for gay trade rumors
Good the Captain deserves his wish to retire as a Celtic, he's one of the all time great C's you dont deal him.


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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #155 on: January 30, 2013, 06:49:15 PM »
Is Ed Davis a bad defender or something?

His numbers per 36 are very good.
He is a good team defender but too skinny as a man-to-man defender. Gets pushed around too easily. A plus team defender but a minus man-to-man defender.

His offense is still quite limited too. Weak jumper with limited range. Weak handle. Weak passer. Weak shot-creator. Most of his baskets are the garbage man variety plus some short jumpers. Offensively, skill-level is more like a center than a forward.

Ed Davis is still young but he has a long way to go. Needs to add more muscle to help him defensively and put in a lot of work to improve his offense.

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #156 on: January 30, 2013, 07:27:20 PM »
I get the Pistons want the contract,  but what does that do to the playing time in Detroit?

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #157 on: January 30, 2013, 07:28:29 PM »
Is Ed Davis a bad defender or something?

His numbers per 36 are very good.
He is a good team defender but too skinny as a man-to-man defender. Gets pushed around too easily. A plus team defender but a minus man-to-man defender.

His offense is still quite limited too. Weak jumper with limited range. Weak handle. Weak passer. Weak shot-creator. Most of his baskets are the garbage man variety plus some short jumpers. Offensively, skill-level is more like a center than a forward.

Ed Davis is still young but he has a long way to go. Needs to add more muscle to help him defensively and put in a lot of work to improve his offense.

I didn't realize that (a) he is now 23, and (b) he is that skinny.

I guess his ceiling is lower than I thought. The trade makes more sense now.

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #158 on: January 30, 2013, 07:31:50 PM »
Shows the danger in giving max contracts to guys who don't deserve it.  Would bet the Grizz would have liked to have kept Gay, given that they have a strong team, and a shot at going far...generally, Danny has done well in this regard.   

And no more Pierce for Gay rumors  :)

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #159 on: January 30, 2013, 07:32:17 PM »
I wonder if Calderon will get bought out..

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #160 on: January 30, 2013, 07:36:28 PM »
Shows the danger in giving max contracts to guys who don't deserve it.  Would bet the Grizz would have liked to have kept Gay, given that they have a strong team, and a shot at going far...generally, Danny has done well in this regard.   

And no more Pierce for Gay rumors  :)

What was Memphis supposed to do? They let him become restricted and as a result the Nets were willing to give him one if Memphis didn't.

No different then Indiana and Portland this past season with Roy Hibbert.

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #161 on: January 30, 2013, 07:43:36 PM »
Basically... http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a6r3dzu

Lol you know Hollinger is smiling about his Trade Machine analysis on this one HAHA.

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #162 on: January 30, 2013, 07:46:56 PM »
Woah.. tayshaun prince has a way bigger contract than I thought he did. That's bad.

And I don't get it for Toronto. Derozan playing the 2, I guess?

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #163 on: January 30, 2013, 07:47:30 PM »
So it's a cap dump for Detroit? Get rid of Prince's three year deal for Calderon's expiring contract?

I wonder who they are planning on making a run at in the off-season. Presumably a wing player. Maybe Iguodala. He seems like a Pistons player.

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Re: Rudy Gay traded to raptors
« Reply #164 on: January 30, 2013, 07:50:10 PM »
So, Memphis threw away a possible shot at a deep play-off run and saved money. A housewife style in terms of management.
Now, they don't have "that" guy anymore. They'll collapse at close games at the end.