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Brandon Bass
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« Reply #150 on: January 30, 2013, 06:29:09 PM » |
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I wish all of you who are talking about the fit of Calderon would realize that the Pistons are taking him on so they can clear cap space. He's not a long term solution for them and they are not competing this year.
Memphis might have done okay. Daye and Davis are good (and cheap) prospects and Prince is on a great contract.
This was a good trade. Memphis got slightly worse on a talent level but they saved a boat load of cash. Toronto is doing a great job building a young and competitive team for the first time and Detroit is clearing out for younger players while clearing cap space.
Everybody does well here I think.
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« Reply #151 on: January 30, 2013, 06:35:09 PM » |
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In the Memphis system, they don't need their SF to do much more than play defense and hit open threes.
For those purposes, Prince is perfect - and costs much, much less than Gay.
Ed Davis is a nice throw-in who could help them off the bench or as an asset in another trade. Overall, I like this deal for Memphis.
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PG: Tony Parker 12.5M / Ramon Sessions 5M / Tony Wroten 1.1M
SG: Danny Green 3.5M / Gary Neal .9M / Jeremy Lamb 2M
SF: Thabo Sefolosha 3.6M / Carlos Delfino 3M / Moe Harkless 1.7M
PF: Tristan Thompson 3.9M / Marreese Speights 4.2M
C: Pau Gasol 19M / Bismack Biyombo 2.9M
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Brandon Bass
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« Reply #152 on: January 30, 2013, 06:40:14 PM » |
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No more pierce for gay trade rumors
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Boris Badenov
Paul Pierce
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« Reply #153 on: January 30, 2013, 06:44:16 PM » |
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Is Ed Davis a bad defender or something?
His numbers per 36 are very good.
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« Reply #154 on: January 30, 2013, 06:48:38 PM » |
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No more pierce for gay trade rumors
Good the Captain deserves his wish to retire as a Celtic, he's one of the all time great C's you dont deal him. |
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« Reply #155 on: January 30, 2013, 06:49:15 PM » |
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Is Ed Davis a bad defender or something?
His numbers per 36 are very good.
He is a good team defender but too skinny as a man-to-man defender. Gets pushed around too easily. A plus team defender but a minus man-to-man defender. His offense is still quite limited too. Weak jumper with limited range. Weak handle. Weak passer. Weak shot-creator. Most of his baskets are the garbage man variety plus some short jumpers. Offensively, skill-level is more like a center than a forward. Ed Davis is still young but he has a long way to go. Needs to add more muscle to help him defensively and put in a lot of work to improve his offense. |
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Jeff Green
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« Reply #156 on: January 30, 2013, 07:27:20 PM » |
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I get the Pistons want the contract, but what does that do to the playing time in Detroit?
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Boris Badenov
Paul Pierce
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« Reply #157 on: January 30, 2013, 07:28:29 PM » |
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Is Ed Davis a bad defender or something?
His numbers per 36 are very good.
He is a good team defender but too skinny as a man-to-man defender. Gets pushed around too easily. A plus team defender but a minus man-to-man defender.
His offense is still quite limited too. Weak jumper with limited range. Weak handle. Weak passer. Weak shot-creator. Most of his baskets are the garbage man variety plus some short jumpers. Offensively, skill-level is more like a center than a forward.
Ed Davis is still young but he has a long way to go. Needs to add more muscle to help him defensively and put in a lot of work to improve his offense.
I didn't realize that (a) he is now 23, and (b) he is that skinny. I guess his ceiling is lower than I thought. The trade makes more sense now. |
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Brandon Bass
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« Reply #158 on: January 30, 2013, 07:31:50 PM » |
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Shows the danger in giving max contracts to guys who don't deserve it. Would bet the Grizz would have liked to have kept Gay, given that they have a strong team, and a shot at going far...generally, Danny has done well in this regard. And no more Pierce for Gay rumors  |
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« Reply #159 on: January 30, 2013, 07:32:17 PM » |
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I wonder if Calderon will get bought out..
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« Reply #160 on: January 30, 2013, 07:36:28 PM » |
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Shows the danger in giving max contracts to guys who don't deserve it. Would bet the Grizz would have liked to have kept Gay, given that they have a strong team, and a shot at going far...generally, Danny has done well in this regard.
And no more Pierce for Gay rumors
What was Memphis supposed to do? They let him become restricted and as a result the Nets were willing to give him one if Memphis didn't. No different then Indiana and Portland this past season with Roy Hibbert. |
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« Reply #161 on: January 30, 2013, 07:43:36 PM » |
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Basically... http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a6r3dzu
Lol you know Hollinger is smiling about his Trade Machine analysis on this one HAHA. |
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« Reply #162 on: January 30, 2013, 07:46:56 PM » |
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Woah.. tayshaun prince has a way bigger contract than I thought he did. That's bad.
And I don't get it for Toronto. Derozan playing the 2, I guess?
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« Reply #163 on: January 30, 2013, 07:47:30 PM » |
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So it's a cap dump for Detroit? Get rid of Prince's three year deal for Calderon's expiring contract?
I wonder who they are planning on making a run at in the off-season. Presumably a wing player. Maybe Iguodala. He seems like a Pistons player.
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F - Bernard King, Cedric Maxwell, Bobby Gross
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« Reply #164 on: January 30, 2013, 07:50:10 PM » |
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So, Memphis threw away a possible shot at a deep play-off run and saved money. A housewife style in terms of management.
Now, they don't have "that" guy anymore. They'll collapse at close games at the end.
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