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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #45 on: January 29, 2013, 02:27:36 PM »

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In engagement of 3rd teams for possible Rudy Gay-to-Toronto deal, Raptors struggling to find landing spot for Jose Calderon, sources tell Y!

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Weird that Memphis doesn't just want to take on his expiring contract directly.
I'm guessing that the proposed trade would put them over the luxury tax this year if they took him.

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #46 on: January 29, 2013, 02:28:53 PM »

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Why would Houston take on Bass when they have so many PFs already?

Cuz outside of Patterson none of them are really any good. Could do the same with the Cavs I suppose.

EDIT: Shoot, I kinda like Terrence Jones too. Anyone know another team with cap space?
Yeah but they surely don't want a long term salary like Bass there as their young PFs develop.

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #47 on: January 29, 2013, 02:29:48 PM »

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I thought raptors preferred to trade lowry over calderon

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #48 on: January 29, 2013, 02:30:22 PM »

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Rockets, T-Wolves, Warriors, Wizards, Raptors, Cavs, Kings, Pacers all have space. Of those Cavs, Warriors, and maybe even the Raptors could possibly use Brandon Bass.

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #49 on: January 29, 2013, 02:31:17 PM »

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I thought raptors preferred to trade lowry over calderon
Chatter designed to give them more leverage? Who knows.

I think they're trying to move both of them.

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #50 on: January 29, 2013, 02:36:55 PM »

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I thought raptors preferred to trade lowry over calderon
Chatter designed to give them more leverage? Who knows.

I think they're trying to move both of them.

If the celtics do get involved i am sure they might try for lowry first. Who knows maybe not they might like calderon instead.

But it seems rudy gay is prob going to raptors

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #51 on: January 29, 2013, 02:37:35 PM »

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Weird that Memphis doesn't just want to take on his expiring contract directly.
I'm guessing that the proposed trade would put them over the luxury tax this year if they took him.

Hard to make sense of that -- they're not that close to the line at this point. They'd need to be taking a bunch of players back from Toronto for it to be an issue -- like Fields, Barngani, etc -- and it's hard to see then why Memphis would be doing it in the first place.
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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #52 on: January 29, 2013, 02:45:29 PM »

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In engagement of 3rd teams for possible Rudy Gay-to-Toronto deal, Raptors struggling to find landing spot for Jose Calderon, sources tell Y!

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Weird that Memphis doesn't just want to take on his expiring contract directly.
I'm guessing that the proposed trade would put them over the luxury tax this year if they took him.

Hard to make sense of that -- they're not that close to the line at this point. They'd need to be taking a bunch of players back from Toronto for it to be an issue -- like Fields, Barngani, etc -- and it's hard to see then why Memphis would be doing it in the first place.
Aren't they only 3 million under?

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #53 on: January 29, 2013, 02:46:14 PM »

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Wait until March 1...

Boston trades: Green, Bass, Barbosa
Boston receives: Lowry, Bargnani, PIETRUS!!!*

Pros: starting PG, solid big, 3-and-D wing

Memphis trades: Gay
Memphis receives: Green, Bass

Pros: Green is almost as good as Gay for half the money, solid 3rd big man

Toronto trades: Lowry, Bargnani, Pietrus
Toronto receives: Gay, Barbosa

Pros: get rid of Bargnani contract, franchise(ish) player in Gay





* In case you can't tell, I love Pietrus.

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #54 on: January 29, 2013, 02:52:08 PM »

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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #55 on: January 29, 2013, 03:06:58 PM »

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As for finding a spot for Calderon, yes, teams have interest in him. Yet how much are they willing to contribute to MEM-TOR in 3-way deal?

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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #56 on: January 29, 2013, 03:07:43 PM »

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In engagement of 3rd teams for possible Rudy Gay-to-Toronto deal, Raptors struggling to find landing spot for Jose Calderon, sources tell Y!

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Weird that Memphis doesn't just want to take on his expiring contract directly.
I'm guessing that the proposed trade would put them over the luxury tax this year if they took him.

Hard to make sense of that -- they're not that close to the line at this point. They'd need to be taking a bunch of players back from Toronto for it to be an issue -- like Fields, Barngani, etc -- and it's hard to see then why Memphis would be doing it in the first place.
Aren't they only 3 million under?

Yes -- but, it still seems odd. It must mean they want Lowry back in the deal, but aren't willing to take either Fields or Klieza as filler, so it has to be Calderon, thus the tax issue.

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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #57 on: January 29, 2013, 03:17:27 PM »

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Wait until March 1...

Boston trades: Green, Bass, Barbosa
Boston receives: Lowry, Bargnani, PIETRUS!!!*

Pros: starting PG, solid big, 3-and-D wing

Memphis trades: Gay
Memphis receives: Green, Bass

Pros: Green is almost as good as Gay for half the money, solid 3rd big man

Toronto trades: Lowry, Bargnani, Pietrus
Toronto receives: Gay, Barbosa

Pros: get rid of Bargnani contract, franchise(ish) player in Gay





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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #58 on: January 29, 2013, 03:17:50 PM »

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In engagement of 3rd teams for possible Rudy Gay-to-Toronto deal, Raptors struggling to find landing spot for Jose Calderon, sources tell Y!

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Weird that Memphis doesn't just want to take on his expiring contract directly.
I'm guessing that the proposed trade would put them over the luxury tax this year if they took him.

Hard to make sense of that -- they're not that close to the line at this point. They'd need to be taking a bunch of players back from Toronto for it to be an issue -- like Fields, Barngani, etc -- and it's hard to see then why Memphis would be doing it in the first place.
Aren't they only 3 million under?

Yes -- but, it still seems odd. It must mean they want Lowry back in the deal, but aren't willing to take either Fields or Klieza as filler, so it has to be Calderon, thus the tax issue.
Or it could be that they want an additional asset that Toronto isn't willing to surrender. So they're trying to turn Calderon into a first round pick.

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #59 on: January 29, 2013, 03:23:21 PM »

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In engagement of 3rd teams for possible Rudy Gay-to-Toronto deal, Raptors struggling to find landing spot for Jose Calderon, sources tell Y!

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Weird that Memphis doesn't just want to take on his expiring contract directly.
I'm guessing that the proposed trade would put them over the luxury tax this year if they took him.

Hard to make sense of that -- they're not that close to the line at this point. They'd need to be taking a bunch of players back from Toronto for it to be an issue -- like Fields, Barngani, etc -- and it's hard to see then why Memphis would be doing it in the first place.
Aren't they only 3 million under?

Yes -- but, it still seems odd. It must mean they want Lowry back in the deal, but aren't willing to take either Fields or Klieza as filler, so it has to be Calderon, thus the tax issue.
Or it could be that they want an additional asset that Toronto isn't willing to surrender. So they're trying to turn Calderon into a first round pick.

Yep -- also a possibility. Hard to imagine a team giving up a 1st for Jose, and equally difficult to find a fit. Cs and Jazz are the closest I can come up with, but I can't see Utah doing it and Boston doesn't have a short / expiring contract to match.
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