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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2013, 09:16:29 PM »

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This is the most sensible deal I can come up with in the scenario ESPN describes. As they suggest, the Celtics give up a 1st rounder in the deal going to Memphis.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ae5c5k9

I think this is a very fair deal for the Cs, particularly considering it allows them to try to 'win now' but actually gives them Anderson and salary flexibility next year, should they want it. I also think it's interesting for the Griz.

At first glance, I think it looney tunes for TOR. But -- 1) they seem to hate Lowry, 2) they're not going to pay Calderon in the offseason, and 3) Colangalo is desperate to be relevant now in order to keep his job.

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2013, 09:21:49 PM »

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This is the most sensible deal I can come up with in the scenario ESPN describes. As they suggest, the Celtics give up a 1st rounder in the deal going to Memphis.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ae5c5k9

I think this is a very fair deal for the Cs, particularly considering it allows them to try to 'win now' but actually gives them Anderson and salary flexibility next year, should they want it. I also think it's interesting for the Griz.

At first glance, I think it looney tunes for TOR. But -- 1) they seem to hate Lowry, 2) they're not going to pay Calderon in the offseason, and 3) Colangalo is desperate to be relevant now in order to keep his job.

Memphis gets no gay replacement?

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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2013, 09:28:29 PM »

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This is the most sensible deal I can come up with in the scenario ESPN describes. As they suggest, the Celtics give up a 1st rounder in the deal going to Memphis.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ae5c5k9

I think this is a very fair deal for the Cs, particularly considering it allows them to try to 'win now' but actually gives them Anderson and salary flexibility next year, should they want it. I also think it's interesting for the Griz.

At first glance, I think it looney tunes for TOR. But -- 1) they seem to hate Lowry, 2) they're not going to pay Calderon in the offseason, and 3) Colangalo is desperate to be relevant now in order to keep his job.

Memphis gets no gay replacement?

I think that's cake and eating it too. They want young players, picks, salary relief. They're not getting a Gay replacement from either TOR or BOS in this deal because they dont want Green and cant get DeRozen.

Granted, Lee is a SG, not a SF, but he's a quality wing who is a major upgrade at the 2 for them. And aside from Davis, they're getting good 3pt shooting in Lee and Calderon.

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2013, 09:32:50 PM »

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Think Memphis and Toronto go for this?

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aet86tb

Yes, but I don't think Boston does!!

Rondo, Bradley, and Green for Lowry, Fields, and Bargnagni???

Each of our players outgoing are better values than their respective player coming in.  And it's not a deal that's going to make us favorites to win a title.
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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2013, 09:33:42 PM »

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This is the most sensible deal I can come up with in the scenario ESPN describes. As they suggest, the Celtics give up a 1st rounder in the deal going to Memphis.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ae5c5k9

I think this is a very fair deal for the Cs, particularly considering it allows them to try to 'win now' but actually gives them Anderson and salary flexibility next year, should they want it. I also think it's interesting for the Griz.

At first glance, I think it looney tunes for TOR. But -- 1) they seem to hate Lowry, 2) they're not going to pay Calderon in the offseason, and 3) Colangalo is desperate to be relevant now in order to keep his job.

That trade makes Toronto very wing heavy and Grizzlies guard heavy. I toyed a bit with your idea and came up with this: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=auhzlwb.

However, given that Memphis are essentially letting Gay go due to financial reasons, I'm positive that taking back $12m this year is decent enough. However, they whould have to be sold that Green would fit their system and produce adequately (which is doubtful), and that they ship Terry on possibly in the offseason, for further cap relief. And I'm not sold on that, considering his current level of performance.

The incentives for Boston and Toronto are relatively obvious, so I won't go into detail with that.

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2013, 09:42:49 PM »

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This is the most sensible deal I can come up with in the scenario ESPN describes. As they suggest, the Celtics give up a 1st rounder in the deal going to Memphis.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ae5c5k9

I think this is a very fair deal for the Cs, particularly considering it allows them to try to 'win now' but actually gives them Anderson and salary flexibility next year, should they want it. I also think it's interesting for the Griz.

At first glance, I think it looney tunes for TOR. But -- 1) they seem to hate Lowry, 2) they're not going to pay Calderon in the offseason, and 3) Colangalo is desperate to be relevant now in order to keep his job.

That trade makes Toronto very wing heavy and Grizzlies guard heavy. I toyed a bit with your idea and came up with this: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=auhzlwb.

However, given that Memphis are essentially letting Gay go due to financial reasons, I'm positive that taking back $12m this year is decent enough. However, they whould have to be sold that Green would fit their system and produce adequately (which is doubtful), and that they ship Terry on possibly in the offseason, for further cap relief. And I'm not sold on that, considering his current level of performance.

The incentives for Boston and Toronto are relatively obvious, so I won't go into detail with that.

Don't understand what you mean. Toronto trades a wing and gets a wing. And Lee plays a position where the Griz currently have basically nothing.

More importantly, your deal doesn't follow the report. Participants: Gay, Arthur, Davis, Lowry, Calderon (for salary purposes). The Griz want young players (meaning, rookie contracts), salary relief, and a pick. The Cs come in to put a player in for Lowry and provide the pick. I add Anderson, who is valuable to the Cs but becomes redundant on the Raps, for providing the pick.
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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2013, 09:50:21 PM »

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What "sources"?

Marc Stein is arguably the most legit national NBA insider. 

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2013, 09:52:32 PM »

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Marc Stein is arguably the most legit national NBA insider.


Just a heads up if anyone wants to hear. He's [Woj] probably the best insider in the league.
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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2013, 10:01:51 PM »

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Marc Stein is arguably the most legit national NBA insider.


Just a heads up if anyone wants to hear. He's [Woj] probably the best insider in the league.
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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2013, 10:03:21 PM »

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Toronto shouldn't pursue Rudy Gay. He is not a guy you can build around.

If you already have a high level star in place, Rudy Gay would make a strong 2nd or 3rd option. The only reason I like the idea of Gay in Boston is because Rondo is already here.

I'd agree with that in many situations, but Toronto has no ability to attract a higher level star player.  They've never been able to attract a star in free agency.  Every star they've drafted (Vince, T-mac, or Bosh) either left in free agency or Toronto had little choice but to trade them.  Unless they strike gold in the draft, I think Gay is the type of player they should try to grab.
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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2013, 10:07:59 PM »

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Why?? They already have two great pieces in Ross and DeRozan. Toronto is nuts.
I wouldn't call Ross a great piece yet.  He hasn't even earned the right to be called a "piece."

Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2013, 10:33:26 PM »

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Sources told ESPN.com on Sunday night, in the wake of Rajon Rondo's season-ending knee injury, that Boston was more likely to pursue Lowry and his cap-friendly contract.

this yet Ainge basically calls Lowry a cancer well played Danny!  :P
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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
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Sources told ESPN.com on Sunday night, in the wake of Rajon Rondo's season-ending knee injury, that Boston was more likely to pursue Lowry and his cap-friendly contract.

this yet Ainge basically calls Lowry a cancer well played Danny!  :P



When did Danny say that? I thought Wojo was the one saying that he has had trouble everywhere he goes?



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Re: Sources: Raptors covet Rudy Gay
« Reply #29 on: January 28, 2013, 10:52:53 PM »

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http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/225841/Raptors_Discussing_Trade_For_Rudy_Gay_With_Grizzlies


Not to much here saying that Jose and Ed davis are the core of the deal. But you gotta think Danny is trying to get in on this. Def. If the Raptors are willing to move Ed davis then throw Bass to toronto and try to nab Jose and throw a pick towards the grizz and try to get in the middle of this a work something out. Really hope the Danny is on the phone trying to get in on this.



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