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Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« on: January 28, 2013, 06:03:25 PM »

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Tom Haberstroh is one of the dudes who writes PER diem now that Hollinger is gone. He is obviously not a Celtics fan, but for those of you without the Insider subscription, here are his trade ideas (and my snark):

1) Sullinger, Bradley, Green, and our 2013 1st
 to TORONTO for
  Kyle Lowry and Linas Kleiza

He sells this as a way for the team to stay afloat. I think that the only thing more demoralizing for fans at this point than losing Rondo would be watching Sullinger and Bradley go. I hope you don't mind my saying- this is a horrible, terrible idea and I would sooner pour hot soup in my eyes than see it happen.

2) Garnett, Pierce, and Collins
  to the LAKERS for
   Howard, Duhon, and MWP

Forget Celtics fans and Lakers fans for a minute. Is there ANY nba fan in the world who wouldn't hate watching these two franchises stitched together like basketball's answer to the Human Centipede? I'll take it, I mean, I'll be the first to admit that I want Dwight Howard on my team. But if a team consisting of Steve Nash, Pau Gasol, Kobe Bryant, Paul Pierce, and Kevin Garnett wins a basketball game, who really is the winner there? I kinda think we all lose.

One thing I know for sure- I would buy air time during Laker games to sell Cialis.

3) Pierce and Wilcox
  to MEMPHIS for
  Wroten and Gay

I hate the Pierce for Gay swap, but throw Wroten in there and it's not the worst thing in the world. If Pierce had to go, I wouldn't lose sleep over this move.

4) Pierce, Bradley, Wilcox, and 2013 1st
  to UTAH for
   Favors, Williams, Tinsley, and Bell

Favors, Pierce, and Bradley are the only names in this deal you care about. Everybody keeps making noise about how Utah needs to trade a big, and then somehow ignoring the fact that the reason they need to trade a big is so they can build around Derrick Favors.

So yeah, fine, I'd do that deal. Moot point, though, because Utah wants to trade Al Jefferson, ride Milsap, and then build around Favors and Kanter. To suggest otherwise seems silly to me.

5) Pierce, Garnett, Sullinger, and Terry to
  MINNESOTA for
  Kevin Love, Andrei Kirilenko, Roy, Ridnour, and Steimsma

As a Celtics fan, I'm looking at that and saying "why the heck is Sullinger in there?" and if you're a Wolves fan, you are saying "why the heck is Kirilenko in there?"

The pieces in the deal are Pierce and Garnett and a shot at the championship this year for Kevin Love, who is Chris Brown to Minnesota's Rihanna.

It's a beautiful thing. Garnett retires with his original franchise, wins another ring, and brings his buddy Pierce with him.

Problem is, it's crazy. The Wolves aren't in the playoff picture right now, and they will have to get all those new pieces to fit fast to make their window. Yes, Wolves fans, Kevin Love is leaving you, but not for three years! If you take this deal, you're asking the dealer to hit you on an 18.


6. Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett, Jason Terry and Jared Sullinger to ATLANTA
  for Smith, Williams, Harris, Pachulia, and Ivan Johnson

This move is the height of ****ery. I can barely scratch the surface. I guess the idea is that we would have room to extend Smith for a max contract... and that would be... a good thing?

Look, someone is going to give Josh Smith the max. It will immediately be one of the worst contracts in the NBA. Smith is an extremely good player who is worth a solid 10-12 million. Over the duration of his next contract as his athleticism plateaus, his outstanding defensive game will deteriorate a bit, and the crazy shots he takes will get crazier. This deal amounts to us forging a deeply flawed new core, and paying Sullinger to the Hawks for the privilege.

OTHER TEAMS


Sacremento-
  There's nothing for us here, guy.

Houston-
  WAY TO BURY THE LEAD, BIG GUY. Gosh, if only there was some team on the brink of contention with an analytic-minded front office, a head coach that is like a second father to Kevin Garnett, and young talent coming out of its ears. Never mind, I'm sure there's nothing to see here.

  Except this - http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bjakuls

  Now forget you saw it...
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Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2013, 06:07:13 PM »

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Tom Haberstroh is one of the dudes who writes PER diem now that Hollinger is gone. He is obviously not a Celtics fan, but for those of you without the Insider subscription, here are his trade ideas (and my snark):

1) Sullinger, Bradley, Green, and our 2013 1st
 to TORONTO for
  Kyle Lowry and Linas Kleiza


   I posted in another thread that I'd like to see the team win some playoff games this year but I think I'd rather lose every game for the rest of the season than do this.

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2013, 06:09:16 PM »

Offline sofutomygaha

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Tom Haberstroh is one of the dudes who writes PER diem now that Hollinger is gone. He is obviously not a Celtics fan, but for those of you without the Insider subscription, here are his trade ideas (and my snark):

1) Sullinger, Bradley, Green, and our 2013 1st
 to TORONTO for
  Kyle Lowry and Linas Kleiza


   I posted in another thread that I'd like to see the team win some playoff games this year but I think I'd rather lose every game for the rest of the season than do this.

I'm with you, bud.

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2013, 06:14:05 PM »

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Tom Haberstroh is one of the dudes who writes PER diem now that Hollinger is gone. He is obviously not a Celtics fan, but for those of you without the Insider subscription, here are his trade ideas (and my snark):

1) Sullinger, Bradley, Green, and our 2013 1st
 to TORONTO for
  Kyle Lowry and Linas Kleiza


   I posted in another thread that I'd like to see the team win some playoff games this year but I think I'd rather lose every game for the rest of the season than do this.

I'm with you, bud.

I can't believe this was his idea number one. Not only does it make us worse right away this year, it strips us of three of our best assets (Bradley, Sullinger and the first). Heck, even Green is up there when considering the future. What a terrible idea.

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2013, 06:19:28 PM »

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Tom Haberstroh is one of the dudes who writes PER diem now that Hollinger is gone. He is obviously not a Celtics fan, but for those of you without the Insider subscription, here are his trade ideas (and my snark):

1) Sullinger, Bradley, Green, and our 2013 1st
 to TORONTO for
  Kyle Lowry and Linas Kleiza


   I posted in another thread that I'd like to see the team win some playoff games this year but I think I'd rather lose every game for the rest of the season than do this.

I'm with you, bud.

I can't believe this was his idea number one. Not only does it make us worse right away this year, it strips us of three of our best assets (Bradley, Sullinger and the first). Heck, even Green is up there when considering the future. What a terrible idea.

Everybody above me is right and so am I. Turrible Deal
Jeff Green - Top 5 SF

[Kevin Garnett]
"I've always said J. Green is going to be one of the best players to ever play this game"

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2013, 06:24:41 PM »

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He sells this as a way for the team to stay afloat. I think that the only thing more demoralizing for fans at this point than losing Rondo would be watching Sullinger and Bradley go. I hope you don't mind my saying- this is a horrible, terrible idea and I would sooner pour hot soup in my eyes than see it happen.


OMG yes, this was exactly my reaction, too.

Face palms all around. 
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Parker isn't going to score 30 ppg and rebuilds generally take longer than 1 year. Relax.

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2013, 06:27:57 PM »

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Tom Haberstroh is one of the dudes who writes PER diem now that Hollinger is gone. He is obviously not a Celtics fan, but for those of you without the Insider subscription, here are his trade ideas (and my snark):

1) Sullinger, Bradley, Green, and our 2013 1st
 to TORONTO for
  Kyle Lowry and Linas Kleiza


   I posted in another thread that I'd like to see the team win some playoff games this year but I think I'd rather lose every game for the rest of the season than do this.

AGREE.
Quote from: BBallTim
Parker isn't going to score 30 ppg and rebuilds generally take longer than 1 year. Relax.

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2013, 06:29:43 PM »

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Tom Haberstroh is one of the dudes who writes PER diem now that Hollinger is gone. He is obviously not a Celtics fan, but for those of you without the Insider subscription, here are his trade ideas (and my snark):

1) Sullinger, Bradley, Green, and our 2013 1st
 to TORONTO for
  Kyle Lowry and Linas Kleiza


   I posted in another thread that I'd like to see the team win some playoff games this year but I think I'd rather lose every game for the rest of the season than do this.

I'm with you, bud.

I can't believe this was his idea number one. Not only does it make us worse right away this year, it strips us of three of our best assets (Bradley, Sullinger and the first). Heck, even Green is up there when considering the future. What a terrible idea.

Everybody above me is right and so am I. Turrible Deal

TP for gilding your veracity with paradox.

Everyone after me is also right and deserving a TP.

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2013, 06:38:09 PM »

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If we blow it up i'd look closely at deal 4 and 5, the rest is just awful.

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #9 on: January 28, 2013, 06:43:11 PM »

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All of his trade ideas are awful.  He should be fired.

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #10 on: January 28, 2013, 06:44:48 PM »

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Tom Haberstroh is one of the dudes who writes PER diem now that Hollinger is gone. He is obviously not a Celtics fan, but for those of you without the Insider subscription, here are his trade ideas (and my snark):

1) Sullinger, Bradley, Green, and our 2013 1st
 to TORONTO for
  Kyle Lowry and Linas Kleiza


   I posted in another thread that I'd like to see the team win some playoff games this year but I think I'd rather lose every game for the rest of the season than do this.

I'll bring the pitchforks and torches

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #11 on: January 28, 2013, 06:47:08 PM »

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I like 2, 4, and 5.  But why would Minny want those old guys?  They still wouldnt compete for a title.  Stupid trade fror them.

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2013, 06:49:03 PM »

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Tom Haberstroh is one of the dudes who writes PER diem now that Hollinger is gone. He is obviously not a Celtics fan, but for those of you without the Insider subscription, here are his trade ideas (and my snark):

1) Sullinger, Bradley, Green, and our 2013 1st
 to TORONTO for
  Kyle Lowry and Linas Kleiza


   I posted in another thread that I'd like to see the team win some playoff games this year but I think I'd rather lose every game for the rest of the season than do this.

Rest assured, if we did make that trade, we would lose every game for the rest of the season.

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #13 on: January 28, 2013, 06:51:17 PM »

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that kyle lowry deal almost made me vomit on my keyboard. 

Re: Haberstroh takes his turn flinging it against the wall
« Reply #14 on: January 28, 2013, 07:16:19 PM »

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Like everyone else has stated, that first trade is absolutely horrible and makes us no better now or in the future.

The other scenarios aren't even worth discussing because of how unrealistic they are. KG isn't going to waive his no-trade clause for possibly the three organizations he hates the most in Atlanta, Minnesota, and LA. I can only see him approving a trade to OKC so he can play with Perk.

 

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