Author Topic: If PP or KG is to be traded, wouldn't it make sense to send them together to LA?  (Read 1733 times)

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I suspect the below is one deal that will be discussed, or at least suggested from one side, between the Celts and Clips:

A Pierce to LAC trade makes some sense for both teams, but it's tricky to get a package from them that's logical for the C's. PP for expirings and Bledsoe seems a little light (though maybe not anymore), and PP for Jordan seems too heavy from LAC's perspective, despite the fact that he and Blake sharing the floor come playoff time is problematic. 

However when you add KG, the argument becomes stronger that it'd significantly improves the Clips' championship hopes. And considering the fact that you'd be trading these two greats together to an excellent competitive and personal situation (based on each's immediate relationship to the LA area), wouldn't it make some sense for both sides?

I struggle with the idea of trading KG more than any player on the Cs roster, but I believe he'd retire if the Cs 'blow it up' anyway. The Cs will also save face with FAs across the league for the positive situation they found for these two teammates under tough circumstaces.

So questions for the board:

1) Would KG waive his 'no-trade' to go with PP to LAC to join CP3, Griffin, and a nice cast of role players?
2) Would you accept a package of Jordan, Bledsoe, and expirings for the two of them?

The deal I believe would makes sense also includes Terry. See below:

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=aoywmzw

I'd expect Billups and / or Odom to be waived after the trade.

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Seems pretty tough to pass up.

Id selfishly rather playout this season but if we "blow it up" this seems like decent return under the circumstances and assuming PP and KG are on board than its a good situation for them and its not like we are trading to a rival.

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I'm not a huge fan of getting Butler back, or Jordan honestly at his contract that's rough for a team that'd be rebuilding.

Bledsoe would be great if we didn't have Rondo/Bradley already.

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I would certainly accept that trade, and it would make the 2012-2013 Clippers an absurd superteam.

BUT it's a win-now move for the Clippers when, honestly, they have about a 50/50 shot at winning now anyway without giving anything up. I think they're willing to part with Bledsoe, but I think they still see themselves as building around Deandre Jordan.

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I dont see it at being very realistic but if we are in full blow up mode then it is indeed intriguing. Hate to see it happen. I think we should be able to get more for Pierce and Garnett but Im not so sure.

Battle Next year with;

Rondo/Bledsoe
Bradley/Lee
Green/Butler
Sully/Bass
Jordan/Melo

Doesnt really give us much financial flexibility in terms of signing a big named free agent. We loose Billups and Odom to expiring deals but with that lineup we are still at around 57 mil. A package of Butler's expiring and Bledsoe could attract teams in a free agent sign and trade however.
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I'm not a huge fan of getting Butler back, or Jordan honestly at his contract that's rough for a team that'd be rebuilding.

Bledsoe would be great if we didn't have Rondo/Bradley already.

I'd assume you're going to trade either Bledsoe or Rondo in time. Likely Bledsoe, who would be building his value while Rondo is out.

Considering the Cs will have limited cap space for a couple of years, the upside of Butler is he gives them one expiring contract to work with this summer / next year should they wish to make a deal. Butler + Bledsoe make a nice combo in the $10mil range.


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We don't need a Bledsoe so basically we're..

Boston gives: PP, KG, trust to Rondo/Bradley/Sully or any player whose only been on the Celtics, this year and next 5 years' championship contending hopes

Boston gets: Deandre Jordan as only necessary piece

We don't need Bledsoe with Rondo/Bradley/Lee/Barbosa this year and likely the first three for the next few years
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We don't need a Bledsoe so basically we're..

Boston gives: PP, KG, trust to Rondo/Bradley/Sully or any player whose only been on the Celtics, this year and next 5 years' championship contending hopes

Boston gets: Deandre Jordan as only necessary piece

We don't need Bledsoe with Rondo/Bradley/Lee/Barbosa this year and likely the first three for the next few years

Needs? Rebuilding teams don't deal on need, they deal on value. And Bledsoe has value, not to mention how it will grow with all the PT he'd get in Boston.

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We don't need a Bledsoe so basically we're..

Boston gives: PP, KG, trust to Rondo/Bradley/Sully or any player whose only been on the Celtics, this year and next 5 years' championship contending hopes

Boston gets: Deandre Jordan as only necessary piece

We don't need Bledsoe with Rondo/Bradley/Lee/Barbosa this year and likely the first three for the next few years

Needs? Rebuilding teams don't deal on need, they deal on value. And Bledsoe has value, not to mention how it will grow with all the PT he'd get in Boston.

Yeah Bledsoe can be a starter and get big minutes til Rondo returns, then we can either use him as a back up point or use his value to trade for a big man.
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Don't like it.


Odom, Billups and Butler do nothing for the team.



Jordon is overpayed C that hurts the rebuilding process.



Bledsoe is not enough of a future piece for the Celtics.


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why would the clippers, who are the strongest contenders, want to trade ANYONE on their team?

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Don't like it.


Odom, Billups and Butler do nothing for the team.



Jordon is overpayed C that hurts the rebuilding process.



Bledsoe is not enough of a future piece for the Celtics.

Well, it's conceivable the Clips would trade Bledsoe and Odom for Pierce. Or, Butler, Bledsoe and a 1st in 2014 for Pierce.

Perhaps this is preferred. Jordan's value has really gone down in the past couple of months.

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why would the clippers, who are the strongest contenders, want to trade ANYONE on their team?

Because this would clearly make them better?

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Don't like it.


Odom, Billups and Butler do nothing for the team.



Jordon is overpayed C that hurts the rebuilding process.



Bledsoe is not enough of a future piece for the Celtics.

Well, it's conceivable the Clips would trade Bledsoe and Odom for Pierce. Or, Butler, Bledsoe and a 1st in 2014 for Pierce.

Perhaps this is preferred. Jordan's value has really gone down in the past couple of months.


Again, because of his position and size, Bledsoe is not the rebuilding piece the Celtics should be chasing.  An extra 1st might be nice, but it is in the range teams sometimes rather 2nd rounders. 


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Don't like it.


Odom, Billups and Butler do nothing for the team.



Jordon is overpayed C that hurts the rebuilding process.



Bledsoe is not enough of a future piece for the Celtics.

Well, it's conceivable the Clips would trade Bledsoe and Odom for Pierce. Or, Butler, Bledsoe and a 1st in 2014 for Pierce.

Perhaps this is preferred. Jordan's value has really gone down in the past couple of months.


Again, because of his position and size, Bledsoe is not the rebuilding piece the Celtics should be chasing.  An extra 1st might be nice, but it is in the range teams sometimes rather 2nd rounders.

 I strongly doubt the Cs ability to get back a better piece than Bledsoe for a 3 month Pierce rental, assuming they don't take back veteran with long-term salary (i.e. Gay or the like).

 

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