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LOL. I really really dont get whats going on.

with rondo very very few were confident in this team or winning a championship. He goes down for the year and we're getting these championship threads?

um....doesnt make any sense

Think of it as an "anti-blow up the whole darned thing" thread if you like.

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If Bynum can come back and play this postseason, what about a trade based around Rondo for Bynum?  I'd expect it to be a 3 team deal sending Holiday somewhere and likely Bass or Sullinger somewhere as well, but just spit balling here.  It would surely put the celtics back into contention this season

[syfy9]

LOL. I really really dont get whats going on.

with rondo very very few were confident in this team or winning a championship. He goes down for the year and we're getting these championship threads?

um....doesnt make any sense...

rondo going down for the year didnt make KG and pierce 10 years younger.

I think it's a fair point that the team operates better systematically without Rondo. More passing and ball movement, and less of Rondo's matador defense.


That being said, Rondo sets up his teammates incredibly well. Easy baskets will be harder to come by.

[syfy9]

If Bynum can come back and play this postseason, what about a trade based around Rondo for Bynum?  I'd expect it to be a 3 team deal sending Holiday somewhere and likely Bass or Sullinger somewhere as well, but just spit balling here.  It would surely put the celtics back into contention this season

You could make a case that Jrue Holiday is an elite point guard now. 19.4 and 8.9 is really good. I doubt he'd be traded - He's Philly's building block for the future now.

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Tossing some names around,

Rondo for:

Okafor

Al Jefferson

Nene

I think that's worth thinking about straight-up for an injured Rondo.  Heartbreaking as it may be, we might have a shot this year if Danny's willing to roll the dice and there's a willing parter.

[snowball]

Tired of people underestimating Barbosa.

[wdleehi]

Rondo's trade value is now really, really low. 


Teams trading for him have to look at him as not being available until the 2014-2015 season.  (yes, I know there is a really good chance he will be back midway next season, but team have to look at worst case scenarios)


At that point, how many years are left on the contract?  One player option. 



So which "lotto" team in their right mind is going to trade for Rondo who may only play one season for them in the future and give up something significant?

[Fafnir]

Yeah Rondo would still have value, but not enough for the C's to consider parting with him.

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Rondo's trade value is now really, really low. 


Teams trading for him have to look at him as not being available until the 2014-2015 season.  (yes, I know there is a really good chance he will be back midway next season, but team have to look at worst case scenarios)


At that point, how many years are left on the contract?  One player option. 



So which "lotto" team in their right mind is going to trade for Rondo who may only play one season for them in the future and give up something significant?

Think it depends a little on the severity of the injury, which is not yet clear.

I'll tell you one team I think would take a chance on Rondo: Dallas -- in part because they'd not take much risk in trading for him.

I could see Cuban trading Mayo (Player Option after this season he'll not take), Collison (RFA) and salary for Rondo. I could also see Ainge doing that deal (but only if the Cs keep Mayo's Bird Rights if he doesn't pick up his option -- can anyone clarify?).

As long as what Dallas takes back doesn't remove their ability to offer one max contract this offseason, I suspect Cuban would be all ears. It would make signing Howard more likely, IMO.

There's a few ways this could be done. Here are two versions -- I'd prefer V1 over V2, if Cuban would go there:

#1) http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bxfbq57

#2) http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=acd5ewl 

[Fafnir]

Dallas doesn't have any bird rights for Mayo, just like with Posey. So if they were to trade him the team getting him would have no advantage in signing him. (at least beyond the non-bird exemption if that still exists in the new CBA)

[Moranis]

don't think he literally meant to trade Rondo.

How bout you take a reading comprehension course, Vinnie?

 

Actually, I did.

This season, he's out.  Next season, he's still recovering.

During that time, we have two seasons of KG, an allstar big, and a very nice surrounding cast that includes Pierce, a great #2 option at this stage.  The only thing we don't have (as Pierce ages) is a go-to scorer and a pure point guard.

We can live without a pure point guard.  Most teams, and many, many champions, do. 

At present, we have two defensive wonders and two recent former 6POYrs.  Maybe the shortened rotations will clarify things, and I think that group can jell.

We need an offensive closer in his prime more than anything else, either way.  The Miami win doesn't change that.  The injury just adds up to using Rondo, salary filler, a pick, and cash to make it happen.

Rondo, Bass, #1 for a max guy on a team that needs to rebuild.

and yet with all this supposed talent + Rondo, Boston is a below .500 team.  Don't you think that maybe just maybe you are significantly overrating how good Boston is/was.  Time to face reality, Boston was not going to win a title with Rondo and certainly is not going to without him. 

[twistedrico14]

I also like this team. If we can move Bass and get another big body that can rebound then I think that is all we need to do right now.. I have a good feeling that Jeff Green is going to be a heavy contributor the rest of the way if Doc gives him 30 minutes a game.

[eugen]

Cs play better withiut Rondo and this ia a fact...To be traded Rondo is too be healthy. is the 2nd time after 201011 season whwn he is out of season. Fragile player, and reason to trade him

[pearljammer10]

Cs play better withiut Rondo and this ia a fact...To be traded Rondo is too be healthy. is the 2nd time after 201011 season whwn he is out of season. Fragile player, and reason to trade him

Ha. Funny.

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Let's do it. Trade Rondo.
His value won't be affected much.