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Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« on: January 27, 2013, 04:24:54 PM »

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You could hear him..."that's how you fight.  that's how you fight."

He's been a great coach all along.  The only difference tonight is that the players came together and gave a great effort. 

Re: Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2013, 04:25:15 PM »

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Re: Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 11:59:43 PM »

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Doc's post game interview

Re: How well Jason Terry and Leandro Barbosa played together:
"We kind of let them play. I called the one time-out and they kept asking, ‘What are we running?’ I said, ‘I have no idea. Just go out and space the floor and play. And play through it. And I think Jason loves to play that way; I think LB clearly likes to play that way, and they just read each other extremely well. We try to keep them on the floor at the same time."


this has to be the comment of the year. haha

Is this all this guy says at huddles??

All kidding aside, without rondo it doesn't have to be rocket science anymore. Guys have so much freedom out there and they are executing harmoniously
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Re: Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2013, 12:05:19 AM »

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Keeping it simple.
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Re: Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2013, 12:44:56 AM »

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Outside of the championship season, the team has always outperformed expectations going into the playoffs (and we weren't favored against the Lakers either in those Finals either). Doc deserves a great deal of credit for that and for a team in the depleted situation that we are in now, I'd rather have him than even Pops. He's a great motivator.  There's now way we should have gotten to 7 games against MIA last year with Pierce and Ray playing hurt, AB injured, and without one legit bench scorer. (OTOH, give Doc 13 competent players that can play in the NBA and we'll see 10,000 different combinations as he searches for the "best" possible solution).

Re: Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2013, 12:47:01 AM »

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Keeping it simple.

I hope we do that after Rondo comes back.

Re: Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2013, 01:22:20 AM »

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Keeping it simple.

I hope we do that after Rondo comes back.

If this continues Rondo won't be here next year. All the things this team has been doing well over the past three games CAN'T be done with Rondo. He slows things down, he gambles and relaxes on defense, he doesn't trust his teammates to handle the ball.

I DID
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2013, 01:32:58 AM »

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how does this make him a great coach?

He has had these same players all year and he did not know how to use them. His failure to utilize the talent given to him by the GM for the better part of the season prompted many here to call for trades and blow up scenarios. Now all of a sudden two players go down and Doc is forced to actually PLAY the players at his disposal and LET them play, and yall think he is great. Okaaaaay

When we won the Chip in 2008 Doc lucked out in the final against the Lakers because foul trouble and injuries made him play folks like Powe and Posey that allowed the Cs to win.

Doc definitely would still be struggling now if Rondo had not gone down.

Re: Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2013, 01:36:16 AM »

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Keeping it simple.

I hope we do that after Rondo comes back.

If this continues Rondo won't be here next year. All the things this team has been doing well over the past three games CAN'T be done with Rondo. He slows things down, he gambles and relaxes on defense, he doesn't trust his teammates to handle the ball.

I'm with those who think it's Doc's playbook that dictated the Rondo-Celtic playstyle, not Rondo.

Re: Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2013, 01:59:49 AM »

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Lol yeah, it only took the best player on the team to go down before doc finally gets that rondo pounding the ball isn't the way to go. Hell, for all we know he still doesn't get it.

Re: Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2013, 02:01:15 AM »

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If anything this shows how overrated doc is. He had the players to make it work but he wasn't making it work. Rondo wasn't the problem. Doc was the problem.

Re: Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2013, 02:12:30 AM »

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Keeping it simple.

I hope we do that after Rondo comes back.

If this continues Rondo won't be here next year. All the things this team has been doing well over the past three games CAN'T be done with Rondo. He slows things down, he gambles and relaxes on defense, he doesn't trust his teammates to handle the ball.

I'm with those who think it's Doc's playbook that dictated the Rondo-Celtic playstyle, not Rondo.

I don't think so at all.  You think Doc wanted only Rondo to have the ball all the time?  To use up so many possessions dribbling around while his teammates stood around doing nothing?  To not take advantage of the new speed he had on the wing by not passing the ball up ahead? If he did, he's one of the most incompetent, feckless coaches who has ever existed.  I think his biggest problem was that he couldn't rein in the ball hogging monster he created in Rondo.  He just let too much slide. 

I remember the first game Rondo returned from his two game suspension, he played the first quarter like I always hoped he would: throwing the ball up ahead, attacking, not being a ball stopper. I thought maybe he had learned something by watching his teammates play without him.  All that went away after his first rest as he went back to hogging the ball.

Re: Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2013, 02:14:31 AM »

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Keeping it simple.

I hope we do that after Rondo comes back.

If this continues Rondo won't be here next year. All the things this team has been doing well over the past three games CAN'T be done with Rondo. He slows things down, he gambles and relaxes on defense, he doesn't trust his teammates to handle the ball.

I'm with those who think it's Doc's playbook that dictated the Rondo-Celtic playstyle, not Rondo.

I don't think so at all.  You think Doc wanted only Rondo to have the ball all the time?  To use up so many possessions dribbling around while his teammates stand around doing nothing?  To not take advantage of the new speed he had on the wing by not passing the ball up ahead? If he did, he's one of the most incompetent, feckless coaches who has ever existed.  I think his biggest problem was that he couldn't rein in the ball hogging monster he created in Rondo.  He just let too much slide. 

I remember the first game Rondo returned from his two game suspension, he played the first quarter like I always hoped he would: throwing the ball up ahead, attacking, not being a ball stopper. I thought maybe he had learned something by watching his teammates play without him.  All that went away after his first rest as he went back to hogging the ball.

Doc is already on record as saying hes the reason rondo has the ball as much as he does so you can't deny its doc.

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« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2013, 02:16:10 AM »

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how does this make him a great coach?

He has had these same players all year and he did not know how to use them. His failure to utilize the talent given to him by the GM for the better part of the season prompted many here to call for trades and blow up scenarios. Now all of a sudden two players go down and Doc is forced to actually PLAY the players at his disposal and LET them play, and yall think he is great. Okaaaaay

When we won the Chip in 2008 Doc lucked out in the final against the Lakers because foul trouble and injuries made him play folks like Powe and Posey that allowed the Cs to win.

Doc definitely would still be struggling now if Rondo had not gone down.

I co-sign the first paragraph and last sentence.

Doc has had the players and pieces all year.

Re: Who said Doc isn't a great coach?
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2013, 02:23:26 AM »

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Why is it on the coach to instruct Rondo on the very basics of the game?  If Rondo doesn't know that ball movement and pushing the ball up ahead with the pass and keeping his teammates involved by getting them consistent touches is a good way to play basketball, that's on him. You shouldn't have to coach a player on that at this level. Everyone else on the Celtics seems to understand it.

Doc put a lot of faith in Rondo.  Rondo rewarded him by putting up great numbers.  He didn't however reward him by leading an efficient offense or giving a [dang] on defense most of the time.

 

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