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Another Doc Rivers Special
« on: January 25, 2013, 10:57:39 PM »

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I posted this in the game thread but thought it needed it's own discussion. If you are not familiar, it's a Bill Simmons Article from 2006. But when you read it, you might think it was written recently. Especially the part about the Hawk's game.

Please read or reread because I think you will enjoy.
« Last Edit: January 25, 2013, 11:16:48 PM by Chief »
Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
 
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Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2013, 11:01:07 PM »

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http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060112

I posted this in the game thread but thought it needed it's own discussion. If you are not famuliar, it's a Bill Simmons Article from 2006. But when you read it, you might think it was written tonight. Especially the part about the Hawk's game.

Please read or reread because I think you will enjoy.

brutal.  :(

Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2013, 11:07:14 PM »

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Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2013, 11:11:28 PM »

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http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060112

I posted this in the game thread but thought it needed it's own discussion. If you are not familiar, it's a Bill Simmons Article from 2006. But when you read it, you might think it was written tonight. Especially the part about the Hawk's game.

Please read or reread because I think you will enjoy.
excellent post -- TP.  proves the more things change, the more they stay the same.  Doc has had the same issues regardless of whether he has a roster of young players or vets.

totally overrated as a coach. 

Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2013, 11:13:06 PM »

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http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060112

I posted this in the game thread but thought it needed it's own discussion. If you are not familiar, it's a Bill Simmons Article from 2006. But when you read it, you might think it was written tonight. Especially the part about the Hawk's game.

Please read or reread because I think you will enjoy.
excellent post -- TP.  proves the more things change, the more they stay the same.  Doc has had the same issues regardless of whether he has a roster of young players or vets.

totally overrated as a coach.

terrible at utilizing player's strengths. he just slams that square peg into a round hole over and over.

Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2013, 11:19:07 PM »

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http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060112

I posted this in the game thread but thought it needed it's own discussion. If you are not familiar, it's a Bill Simmons Article from 2006. But when you read it, you might think it was written tonight. Especially the part about the Hawk's game.

Please read or reread because I think you will enjoy.
excellent post -- TP.  proves the more things change, the more they stay the same.  Doc has had the same issues regardless of whether he has a roster of young players or vets.

totally overrated as a coach.

terrible at utilizing player's strengths. he just slams that square peg into a round hole over and over.

Brandon Bass nickname = square peg
Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
 
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Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2013, 11:24:39 PM »

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http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060112

I posted this in the game thread but thought it needed it's own discussion. If you are not familiar, it's a Bill Simmons Article from 2006. But when you read it, you might think it was written tonight. Especially the part about the Hawk's game.

Please read or reread because I think you will enjoy.
excellent post -- TP.  proves the more things change, the more they stay the same.  Doc has had the same issues regardless of whether he has a roster of young players or vets.

totally overrated as a coach.

Coaches often improve as has Doc. Where was that article when he was coaching the 09 team, without KG, to play their hearts out? In 2010 when we almost won the title as underdogs in every series, some even had losing in the 1st rd to Miami? In 11 we again fought tooth and nail against Miami and every game was close despite playing without our starting center and Rondo playing with one arm? Last year our injury team again played our hearts out and were 8 minutes from the Finals. That is coaching. That is leading men. When Doc's players quit on him during the playoffs then it's time for him to go.

Oh, and by the way, I've heard Bill Simmons say that he stands corrected on Doc. He didn't feel he did a good job before the Big 3, but said that in 09 and 10 he did one of the best coaching jobs he's ever seen.

Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 11:48:53 PM »

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feel that he's not getting into the players anymore. i hope he can find the decency to step down. it's time for a change.

Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2013, 01:11:12 AM »

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Wow.

1. Lousy record in close games

Check.

2. Too many turnovers.

Check.

3. Too many offensive rebounds allowed.

Check.

4. Not enough winning streaks.

Check.

5. Opposing 3-point percentage

Pretty sure this is a check.  It sure was tonight.  (they're 13th in the league so . . . half-check)

6. Lousy record on the road

Check. (7-14)

7. Lack of a consistent rotation

CHECK

8. Downright stupidity

At times, check.  (roll tape of every failed Pierce iso the past 3-4 seasons)
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Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2013, 01:25:40 AM »

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wowwie wow wow

as i continue to say, he doesn't know what to do with this much talent

he's used to guys being ok at providing one thing cuz that's all they have.
this is diff.

Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2013, 07:55:11 AM »

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Wow.

1. Lousy record in close games

Check.

2. Too many turnovers.

Check.

3. Too many offensive rebounds allowed.

Check.

4. Not enough winning streaks.

Check.

5. Opposing 3-point percentage

Pretty sure this is a check.  It sure was tonight.  (they're 13th in the league so . . . half-check)

6. Lousy record on the road

Check. (7-14)

7. Lack of a consistent rotation

CHECK

8. Downright stupidity

At times, check.  (roll tape of every failed Pierce iso the past 3-4 seasons)

9. playing a zone and letting a team shoot themselves back into a game

check
Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
 
Larry Bird

Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2013, 12:37:26 PM »

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http://proxy.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/060112

I posted this in the game thread but thought it needed it's own discussion. If you are not familiar, it's a Bill Simmons Article from 2006. But when you read it, you might think it was written tonight. Especially the part about the Hawk's game.

Please read or reread because I think you will enjoy.
excellent post -- TP.  proves the more things change, the more they stay the same.  Doc has had the same issues regardless of whether he has a roster of young players or vets.

totally overrated as a coach.

Coaches often improve as has Doc. Where was that article when he was coaching the 09 team, without KG, to play their hearts out? In 2010 when we almost won the title as underdogs in every series, some even had losing in the 1st rd to Miami? In 11 we again fought tooth and nail against Miami and every game was close despite playing without our starting center and Rondo playing with one arm? Last year our injury team again played our hearts out and were 8 minutes from the Finals. That is coaching. That is leading men. When Doc's players quit on him during the playoffs then it's time for him to go.

Oh, and by the way, I've heard Bill Simmons say that he stands corrected on Doc. He didn't feel he did a good job before the Big 3, but said that in 09 and 10 he did one of the best coaching jobs he's ever seen.

I think Doc is regressing. :-\
Once you are labeled 'the best' you want to stay up there, and you can't do it by loafing around.
 
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Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2013, 01:06:27 PM »

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Last I saw, Doc wasn't wearing a jersey,
but what do I know.

Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2013, 01:17:56 PM »

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Last I saw, Doc wasn't wearing a jersey,
but what do I know.

You say that like we don't need coaches... your statement implies that coaches have no impact on wins or losses. Why pay Doc or any coach?

But what do I know.
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Re: Another Doc Rivers Special
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2013, 01:36:06 PM »

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Last I saw, Doc wasn't wearing a jersey,
but what do I know.

You say that like we don't need coaches... your statement implies that coaches have no impact on wins or losses. Why pay Doc or any coach?

But what do I know.

TP.

Doc is a terrible coach. People have been blinded by his ability to manage player personalities and develop bonds with his team. But as far as coaching? Actually coaching a game? No.

Doc Rivers was a product of his assistants. Now he's being exposed.

 

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