Boston Celtics / Denver Nuggets Trade Scenario

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Unless they'd take Bass for him, there's really not much reason to discuss him.

denver needs to add 1 player to match the salary

Sure. My point is: Denver's not doing the deal, regardless.

[krook]

Unless they'd take Bass for him, there's really not much reason to discuss him.

denver needs to add 1 player to match the salary

Sure. My point is: Denver's not doing the deal, regardless.

3 team deal might get it done

[krook]

I am not "there yet" on KG leaving the Center position.
He has thrived there.

and im telling you this

kg can't go for too minutes
specially for Brooklyn

lopez evans humphries blatche Wallace

what do we got?

kg collins wilcox?

[Humble G]

Unless they'd take Bass for him, there's really not much reason to discuss him.

denver needs to add 1 player to match the salary

Sure. My point is: Denver's not doing the deal, regardless.

3 team deal might get it done

what about a 4 team deal ? 
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=anuguff

[krook]

Unless they'd take Bass for him, there's really not much reason to discuss him.

denver needs to add 1 player to match the salary

Sure. My point is: Denver's not doing the deal, regardless.

3 team deal might get it done

what about a 4 team deal ? 
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=anuguff

i like barbosa though, i hope we can change it with someone or add pick or cash

barbosa is a good pick up for us taking a low salary contract, give him the minutes he can give us some score

[Who]

Best to start KG and Sully and bring Mozgov off the bench.

Mozgov currently isn't good enough to make it worthwhile moving Garnett back to power forward full time. With 18-24 months of good coaching, Mozgov could be a quality starting center in the NBA. He needs a top big man coach like Clifford Ray to help him with his positioning and footwork defensively off the ball.

[krook]

Best to start KG and Sully and bring Mozgov off the bench.

Mozgov currently isn't good enough to make it worthwhile moving Garnett back to power forward full time. With 18-24 months of good coaching, Mozgov could be a quality starting center in the NBA. He needs a top big man coach like Clifford Ray to help him with his positioning and footwork defensively off the ball.

he fits doc rivers system right?

and how many minutes will he get?

can he also guard chris bosh?

[Who]

Best to start KG and Sully and bring Mozgov off the bench.

Mozgov currently isn't good enough to make it worthwhile moving Garnett back to power forward full time. With 18-24 months of good coaching, Mozgov could be a quality starting center in the NBA. He needs a top big man coach like Clifford Ray to help him with his positioning and footwork defensively off the ball.

he fits doc rivers system right?

and how many minutes will he get?

can he also guard chris bosh?

I don't think fit is the question as much as individual talent is.

Right now, Mozgov is a so-so backup center who is only good for 10-15 minutes a night. That is about as big a role as I can see Doc giving him. Mozgov's lack of intelligence as a team defender makes it very hard to get him more minutes than that. That would be the concern about Mozgov fitting in here. Being able to learn defensive system or not.   

Chris Bosh = Mozgov can't guard Bosh. Hardly any centers in the league can guard Chris Bosh. He is one of the most difficult guys in the league to defend against at the five position. Power forwards (and some tall strong small forwards) have more success defensively on Bosh than centers.

[sofutomygaha]

Mozgov is 26 years old and he still has a long way to go. He's huge, but he is offensively inferior to Bass and defensively he isn't a huge upgrade.

[Who]

Mozgov's best defensive strengths is his post defense against physical power players in the paint (so say somebody like Dwight Howard or Andrew Bynum = best post defender against Bynum in playoffs last year for Denver). Mozgov has a very large frame at 7-1 270lbs with good length. Opposing players find it difficult to move him on the block and/or to finish over his length.

Mozgov doesn't match up well against quick highly skilled finesse bigs like Bosh (doesn't play good defense away from the basket) or play adequate team defense. His lack of team defense is why Mozgov hasn't played more in the NBA since arriving despite his physical talent, strong post defense and decent short jump shot and finishing around the basket offensively.

Mozgov has really good quickness and mobility for a guy his size and should be able to do more as a help defender with strong coaching. A very good option to pickup cheap and develop into a quality player.

[Evantime34]

As other have said it really depends on who we have to give up. If Denver decides they just want another rotation big like Bass I am in. A deal like this would something I would do
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=c2jdfvn

[krook]

Mozgov's best defensive strengths is his post defense against physical power players in the paint (so say somebody like Dwight Howard or Andrew Bynum = best post defender against Bynum in playoffs last year for Denver). Mozgov has a very large frame at 7-1 270lbs with good length. Opposing players find it difficult to move him on the block and/or to finish over his length.

Mozgov doesn't match up well against quick highly skilled finesse bigs like Bosh (doesn't play good defense away from the basket) or play adequate team defense. His lack of team defense is why Mozgov hasn't played more in the NBA since arriving despite his physical talent, strong post defense and decent short jump shot and finishing around the basket offensively.

Mozgov has really good quickness and mobility for a guy his size and should be able to do more as a help defender with strong coaching. A very good option to pickup cheap and develop into a quality player.

if we face brooklyn nets, we saw lopez killed kg at #5

would we bring mozgov at #5 for mozgov and kg on humphries?

bucks larry sander?

detroits andray drummond?

chicago bulls

would we put mozgov on noah and boozer on kg?

chandler 7'1 on mozgov 7'1 and kg on melo or stoudamaire or someone?

lakers vs celtics

mozgov on dwight and kg on gasol
as we saw before perkins on bynum and kg on gasol

or kg on howard
7'0 gasol on 6'8 sullinger or bass?

sixers bynum on mozgov
as we saw last years playoffs denver vs lakers
mozgov on bynum?

or memphis?
z-bo on kg? marc gasol on mozgov?

or spurs? or okc? thabeet 7'3 or ibaka? or perkins?

celtics don't have the pieces for gortat or jefferson

mozgov is cheap and letting go of bass giving us some salary cap space which is really good

+ mozgov is RFA, we can resign him next season,

collins is really useless
wilcox is injured

we need kg to rest when he is tired specially playoffs

brooklyn got a good 4 and 5 rotations
brook lopez can rest a lot for kg

[krook]

sully gets an early foul trouble

bass complains on less minutes

bass hits jumpshots when he misses no one grabbed those rebounds

height kill bass

lots of 7'0 and 6'11 pf's out there

and 6'8 6'9 but knows how to used there bodies

and big baby davis is doing good in orlando

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Unless they'd take Bass for him, there's really not much reason to discuss him.

denver needs to add 1 player to match the salary

Sure. My point is: Denver's not doing the deal, regardless.

3 team deal might get it done

I'd say a 3 team deal with Bass as the largest salary in the deal is as unlikely a scenario as I can imagine right now. The only way he gets traded is if he's attached to PP or KG.

[Who]

Mozgov's best defensive strengths is his post defense against physical power players in the paint (so say somebody like Dwight Howard or Andrew Bynum = best post defender against Bynum in playoffs last year for Denver). Mozgov has a very large frame at 7-1 270lbs with good length. Opposing players find it difficult to move him on the block and/or to finish over his length.

Mozgov doesn't match up well against quick highly skilled finesse bigs like Bosh (doesn't play good defense away from the basket) or play adequate team defense. His lack of team defense is why Mozgov hasn't played more in the NBA since arriving despite his physical talent, strong post defense and decent short jump shot and finishing around the basket offensively.

Mozgov has really good quickness and mobility for a guy his size and should be able to do more as a help defender with strong coaching. A very good option to pickup cheap and develop into a quality player.

if we face brooklyn nets, we saw lopez killed kg at #5

would we bring mozgov at #5 for mozgov and kg on humphries?

bucks larry sander?

detroits andray drummond?

chicago bulls

would we put mozgov on noah and boozer on kg?

chandler 7'1 on mozgov 7'1 and kg on melo or stoudamaire or someone?

lakers vs celtics

mozgov on dwight and kg on gasol
as we saw before perkins on bynum and kg on gasol

or kg on howard
7'0 gasol on 6'8 sullinger or bass?

sixers bynum on mozgov
as we saw last years playoffs denver vs lakers
mozgov on bynum?

or memphis?
z-bo on kg? marc gasol on mozgov?

or spurs? or okc? thabeet 7'3 or ibaka? or perkins?

celtics don't have the pieces for gortat or jefferson

mozgov is cheap and letting go of bass giving us some salary cap space which is really good

+ mozgov is RFA, we can resign him next season,

collins is really useless
wilcox is injured

we need kg to rest when he is tired specially playoffs

brooklyn got a good 4 and 5 rotations
brook lopez can rest a lot for kg

Yes -- Mozgov would be very useful defensively against Brook Lopez and the Nets, Dwight Howard and the Lakers, Andrew Bynum and the Sixers, and, Memphis and Marc Gasol.

Against the others, I would say there isn't enough added value with Mozgov's post defense to put him in ahead of Sully and would keep KG as my starting center.