The Rondo/Bradley/Green/Sullinger/Melo Lineup

[CelticConcourse]

So, if we lose Pierce and Garnett our lineup will probably include these five players as starters, seeing as that's what Danny is locking them up for.

How do you see that going?

Rajon Rondo (16/12/4)
Avery Bradley (16ppg)
Jeff Green (20/6/4)
Jared Sullinger (15/10)
Fab Melo ( )

Clearly, it's hard to know since we have no idea who else will be on the team.

[Roy H.]

In what year are we talking?

If KG and Pierce retired next year, I'd say that starting lineup gets us firmly into the lottery.

[CelticConcourse]

In what year are we talking?

If KG and Pierce retired next year, I'd say that starting lineup gets us firmly into the lottery.

Two-three years away?
Why don't I understand that?

Rondo will be an all-star almost assuredly...
Bradley is one of the best wing defenders in the league...
Jared Sullinger in 3 years should be a double-double machine...

That's already three good players to build around.

[ScottHow]

I'd be sooooo pumped for our number 1 pick!

[esel1000]

I don't think its possible to say for sure until we see Melo play a minute of NBA time

[CelticConcourse]

I don't think its possible to say for sure until we see Melo play a minute of NBA time

That's true too.. he's a complete unknown. Will he be a Roy Hibbert? Or a Hakim Warrick?

[kgainez]

In what year are we talking?

If KG and Pierce retired next year, I'd say that starting lineup gets us firmly into the lottery.

Are you Doc?
You just do not like Jeff, do you? lol

I think this hypothetical line up idea is...weird. You're asking me to judge someone who doesn't even play lol. You're also forcing ideas on me.
I think as starters, Sully would step it up yes. I think Green could step it up depending on his role (what scoring option is he?)
I also think, if we are talking about next year or 2 years from now, how much Playoff experience do they have?
Too many things for me to question.

INCONCLUSIVE!!

[AB_Celtic]

In what year are we talking?

If KG and Pierce retired next year, I'd say that starting lineup gets us firmly into the lottery.

Two-three years away?
Why don't I understand that?

Rondo will be an all-star almost assuredly...
Bradley is one of the best wing defenders in the league...
Jared Sullinger in 3 years should be a double-double machine...

That's already three good players to build around.

An interesting comparison is to today's Grizzlies
Starting PG: Great passer, speedy, athletic (Rondo/Conley)
Starting SG: Primarily a defensive player (Bradley/T.Allen)
Starting SF: Streaky, athletic, average-shooting (Green/Gay)
Starting PF: Double-double energy guy (Sully/Z.Bo)
Starting C: Big, tough, defensive guy (Melo/M.Gasol)

However, that said...
Rondo > Conley
Bradley = T.Allen
Green < Gay
Sully < Z.Bo
Melo < M.Gasol

Up until this current year, Memphis was a borderline playoff team. And the reason they're doing so well this year is because their potential (Conley, Gay, Gasol) panned out.

I am confident Melo will not be as good as Gasol.
I am confident Green will not be good as Gay.
Sully could come close to Z.Bo, but I don't think he'll be as good as him.

Also, Conley's perimeter shooting makes up for T.Allen's weakness in that area. Rondo can't now and likely won't ever be able to be such a shooting threat as to make up for Bradley. So look forward to having zero floor spacing.

So, however you look at it, we would be worse than a borderline-playoff team, making us a non-playoff team. I'm pretty certain of that.

[CelticConcourse]

In what year are we talking?

If KG and Pierce retired next year, I'd say that starting lineup gets us firmly into the lottery.

Two-three years away?
Why don't I understand that?

Rondo will be an all-star almost assuredly...
Bradley is one of the best wing defenders in the league...
Jared Sullinger in 3 years should be a double-double machine...

That's already three good players to build around.

An interesting comparison is to today's Grizzlies
Starting PG: Great passer, speedy, athletic (Rondo/Conley)
Starting SG: Primarily a defensive player (Bradley/T.Allen)
Starting SF: Streaky, athletic, average-shooting (Green/Gay)
Starting PF: Double-double energy guy (Sully/Z.Bo)
Starting C: Big, tough, defensive guy (Melo/M.Gasol)

However, that said...
Rondo > Conley
Bradley = T.Allen
Green < Gay
Sully < Z.Bo
Melo < M.Gasol

Up until this current year, Memphis was a borderline playoff team. And the reason they're doing so well this year is because their potential (Conley, Gay, Gasol) panned out.

I am confident Melo will not be as good as Gasol.
I am confident Green will not be good as Gay.
Sully could come close to Z.Bo, but I don't think he'll be as good as him.

Also, Conley's perimeter shooting makes up for T.Allen's weakness in that area. Rondo can't now and likely won't ever be able to be such a shooting threat as to make up for Bradley. So look forward to having zero floor spacing.

So, however you look at it, we would be worse than a borderline-playoff team, making us a non-playoff team. I'm pretty certain of that.

First.... Grizzlies are not a borderline-playoff team, they're a top 6 team in the league.

Second.... Green could easily be better than Gay.

Third..... Melo will never be Gasol, I think.

Fourth.... Sully could potentially be a Z-Bo, who knows? It's possible.

Rondo... is better than Conley for sure.
Bradley has better offense than Allen for sure.

Rondo > Conley
Bradley ≥ Tony Allen
Green ≅ Gay
Sully ≅ Z Bo
Melo < Marc Gasol

Now, how about that top-4 seed?!

[kgainez]

In what year are we talking?

If KG and Pierce retired next year, I'd say that starting lineup gets us firmly into the lottery.

Two-three years away?
Why don't I understand that?

Rondo will be an all-star almost assuredly...
Bradley is one of the best wing defenders in the league...
Jared Sullinger in 3 years should be a double-double machine...

That's already three good players to build around.

An interesting comparison is to today's Grizzlies
Starting PG: Great passer, speedy, athletic (Rondo/Conley)
Starting SG: Primarily a defensive player (Bradley/T.Allen)
Starting SF: Streaky, athletic, average-shooting (Green/Gay)
Starting PF: Double-double energy guy (Sully/Z.Bo)
Starting C: Big, tough, defensive guy (Melo/M.Gasol)

However, that said...
Rondo > Conley
Bradley = T.Allen
Green < Gay
Sully < Z.Bo
Melo < M.Gasol

Up until this current year, Memphis was a borderline playoff team. And the reason they're doing so well this year is because their potential (Conley, Gay, Gasol) panned out.

I am confident Melo will not be as good as Gasol.
I am confident Green will not be good as Gay.
Sully could come close to Z.Bo, but I don't think he'll be as good as him.

Also, Conley's perimeter shooting makes up for T.Allen's weakness in that area. Rondo can't now and likely won't ever be able to be such a shooting threat as to make up for Bradley. So look forward to having zero floor spacing.

So, however you look at it, we would be worse than a borderline-playoff team, making us a non-playoff team. I'm pretty certain of that.

I see your point. I think, however, Sully could end up being as good as Zbo. Please tell me why not? He goes for the ball, hustles, has a midrange jumper and jumps a lot higher than Zachary. I think your now might be impairing your future.

I also don't think Rudy Gay is all that. And that's just a personal opinion. If you're asking me if I would rather have Gay or Green...I probably could care less. They're both kind of passive guys to me who frustrate ya.

so with that being said, that makes me feel better! lol...that could be a well seeded team!

Oh and then Melo. He's growing by leaps and bounds. Though I do like Marc.

[CelticsFan9]

Instead of talking about wins, let's talk about points scored per game.

That lineup would be unable to score when needed.  Little floor spacing (Avery's getting better, though), little post-presence (Sully's great, but he's way undersized), and a lack of a shot creator (until Rondo makes teams respect his shot, he can't be that guy; Jeff is too passive to be this guy).

This lineup would be pretty awful, whether it be next year or even three years from now.

[CelticConcourse]

Instead of talking about wins, let's talk about points scored per game.

That lineup would be unable to score when needed.  Little floor spacing (Avery's getting better, though), little post-presence (Sully's great, but he's way undersized), and a lack of a shot creator (until Rondo makes teams respect his shot, he can't be that guy; Jeff is too passive to be this guy).

This lineup would be pretty awful, whether it be next year or even three years from now.

You're right. Now that I think about it, there's no knock-down shooter on that list!

[kgainez]

Instead of talking about wins, let's talk about points scored per game.

That lineup would be unable to score when needed.  Little floor spacing (Avery's getting better, though), little post-presence (Sully's great, but he's way undersized), and a lack of a shot creator (until Rondo makes teams respect his shot, he can't be that guy; Jeff is too passive to be this guy).

This lineup would be pretty awful, whether it be next year or even three years from now.

You're right. Now that I think about it, there's no knock-down shooter on that list!

goodness, i wish we had one these last 4 or 5 games. SMH

[BballTim]

In what year are we talking?

If KG and Pierce retired next year, I'd say that starting lineup gets us firmly into the lottery.

 Retire before next year or after?

[Roy H.]

In what year are we talking?

If KG and Pierce retired next year, I'd say that starting lineup gets us firmly into the lottery.

 Retire before next year or after?

I was thinking if you threw those five guys on the floor next year, with neither KG nor Pierce.  That would be ugly.