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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #75 on: January 23, 2013, 12:57:16 PM »

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Tell me this doesn't have the potential to make Jeff Green one of the better post-up players in the league.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5717fB_csMQ

I've been disappointed by Green's results in the post.  When he first came over from OKC, it seemed like he had some decent ability to score down low.  However, his results there have sucked.  27.5% shooting?  Come on.


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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #76 on: January 23, 2013, 01:02:02 PM »

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Tell me this doesn't have the potential to make Jeff Green one of the better post-up players in the league.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5717fB_csMQ

I've been disappointed by Green's results in the post.  When he first came over from OKC, it seemed like he had some decent ability to score down low.  However, his results there have sucked.  27.5% shooting?  Come on.

I will give Green one benefit of the doubt on the post stuff.  The teams spacing has been horrible in general all year, and that has really hurt him in the post.  That video never happens, because they never have that kind of spacing.  They always either have the paint clogged or guys able to both double Green, and still get back to their own man, because everyone is sitting at 15 feet. 

If you can get Green on an open side of the floor like he is in that video, I think he would be a much bigger weapon. 

Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #77 on: January 23, 2013, 01:05:12 PM »

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Especially at his size, he certainly has the ability to shoot over most SFs in the league. His post-game is effective when used right... which means not playing him as PF, which is never going to happen until Paul Pierce is out.
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #78 on: January 23, 2013, 01:12:07 PM »

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Hahaha this thread title is hysterical.

Jeff Green is a joke. A dog. He's terrible. He will not ever be good. He will ever start on a winning team.


The Thunder?

Haha. Burn.

Was it though? Were they THAT good when he started there? Weren't they happy to get rid of him? Didn't they instantly improve when they gave those minutes to Ibaka?

Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #79 on: January 23, 2013, 01:14:08 PM »

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Potential gets coaches fired. Potential blows up teams...

I am tired of hearing what Green COULD do... for $40 mill let me see what he DOES do.

Guys a joke, and anyone who can't see that this guy is under performing (again, $40 mill) is looking at things through Green Goggles.

Think Doc is happy with Jeff Green?

Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #80 on: January 23, 2013, 01:19:39 PM »

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Hahaha this thread title is hysterical.

Jeff Green is a joke. A dog. He's terrible. He will not ever be good. He will ever start on a winning team.


The Thunder?

Haha. Burn.

Was it though? Were they THAT good when he started there? Weren't they happy to get rid of him? Didn't they instantly improve when they gave those minutes to Ibaka?

They were 42-23 when Jeff Green left and he was averaging 15.2/5.6 which was third on the team in points and second in rebounds... the Thunder were a solid contender, having only had ONE three-game losing streak that WHOLE SEASON, and that was only because the trade had just occurred. Green can be a starter on a contender.

Potential gets coaches fired. Potential blows up teams...

I am tired of hearing what Green COULD do... for $40 mill let me see what he DOES do.

Guys a joke, and anyone who can't see that this guy is under performing (again, $40 mill) is looking at things through Green Goggles.

Think Doc is happy with Jeff Green?

Why is he signed for a four-year contract rather than a one-year contract? One word: potential. Why else would we draft Fab Melo? He's not a 22-pick at all, playing at his current ability... it's his potential that we got him for.
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #81 on: January 23, 2013, 01:23:14 PM »

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Hahaha this thread title is hysterical.

Jeff Green is a joke. A dog. He's terrible. He will not ever be good. He will ever start on a winning team.


The Thunder?

Haha. Burn.

Was it though? Were they THAT good when he started there? Weren't they happy to get rid of him? Didn't they instantly improve when they gave those minutes to Ibaka?

They were 42-23 when Jeff Green left.

Potential gets coaches fired. Potential blows up teams...

I am tired of hearing what Green COULD do... for $40 mill let me see what he DOES do.

Guys a joke, and anyone who can't see that this guy is under performing (again, $40 mill) is looking at things through Green Goggles.

Think Doc is happy with Jeff Green?

Why is he signed for a four-year contract rather than a one-year contract? One word: potential. Why else would we draft Fab Melo? He's not a 22-pick at all, playing at his current ability... it's his potential that we got him for.


Melo is young.  Melo has not played in the NBA and can still show growth.



Green hasn't shown improvement in what, 5 seasons? 


Green is the player that he is.  A good SF, not a star. 


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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #82 on: January 23, 2013, 01:23:50 PM »

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Why is he signed for a four-year contract rather than a one-year contract? One word: potential. Why else would we draft Fab Melo? He's not a 22-pick at all, playing at his current ability... it's his potential that we got him for.

Potential goes out the window once you make 8+ million a year.

Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #83 on: January 23, 2013, 01:23:55 PM »

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I am tired of hearing what Green COULD do... for $40 mill let me see what he DOES do.
For $40 million, you will have to wait until the end of his contract.
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #84 on: January 23, 2013, 01:26:49 PM »

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I am tired of hearing what Green COULD do... for $40 mill let me see what he DOES do.
For $40 million, you will have to wait until the end of his contract.

Even Ersan İlyasova re-signed with the Bucks a 5 year, $40 million dollar contract, and he's playing WAY worse than Jeff Green.
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #85 on: January 23, 2013, 01:28:59 PM »

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I am tired of hearing what Green COULD do... for $40 mill let me see what he DOES do.
For $40 million, you will have to wait until the end of his contract.

Even Ersan İlyasova re-signed with the Bucks a 5 year, $40 million dollar contract, and he's playing WAY worse than Jeff Green.



That makes overpaying Green all worth it.  Someone else overpayed another player. 





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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #86 on: January 23, 2013, 01:30:18 PM »

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I am tired of hearing what Green COULD do... for $40 mill let me see what he DOES do.
For $40 million, you will have to wait until the end of his contract.

Even Ersan İlyasova re-signed with the Bucks a 5 year, $40 million dollar contract, and he's playing WAY worse than Jeff Green.



That makes overpaying Green all worth it.  Someone else overpayed another player.

What I'm trying to tell you is that Green will undoubtedly get better. People don't pay $40 million just because they want to, they do it for a reason, and Jeff Green's future is the reason. All teams will pay for potential, and so have the Celtics, we'll just have to see if it pays off. And I think it will.
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #87 on: January 23, 2013, 01:32:33 PM »

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I am tired of hearing what Green COULD do... for $40 mill let me see what he DOES do.
For $40 million, you will have to wait until the end of his contract.

Even Ersan İlyasova re-signed with the Bucks a 5 year, $40 million dollar contract, and he's playing WAY worse than Jeff Green.



That makes overpaying Green all worth it.  Someone else overpayed another player.

What I'm trying to tell you is that Green will undoubtedly get better. People don't pay $40 million just because they want to, they do it for a reason, and Jeff Green's future is the reason. All teams will pay for potential, and so have the Celtics, we'll just have to see if it pays off. And I think it will.


I'm sure that's what the Celtics kept saying after they gave Blount that contract.

Or Gerald Green




Can someone show one piece of actual evidence that Green has improved over the years?  Everything I see looks like a consistent play level year after year.


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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #88 on: January 23, 2013, 01:33:34 PM »

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I am tired of hearing what Green COULD do... for $40 mill let me see what he DOES do.
For $40 million, you will have to wait until the end of his contract.

Even Ersan İlyasova re-signed with the Bucks a 5 year, $40 million dollar contract, and he's playing WAY worse than Jeff Green.



That makes overpaying Green all worth it.  Someone else overpayed another player.
Hey, you can staff your roster entirely with vet minimum players. This way, it's mathematically impossible to overpay anyone. Wouldn't it be great to have a roster chock full of folks that perform at or above their pay grade?
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Re: Jeff Green - top 5 SF in 2 years
« Reply #89 on: January 23, 2013, 01:35:24 PM »

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Can someone show one piece of actual evidence that Green has improved over the years?  Everything I see looks like a consistent play level year after year.
Even if he remains a 15 ppg / 6 rpg per 35 minutes player for the duration of his contract... what exactly were you hoping to get for a contract that averages 9 million a year?
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