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Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2013, 10:54:14 PM »

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I was hoping this would be a realistic idea.

I'd gladly take Gasol for Green/Bass/Terry (or Lee).

Trading our Captain for an almost as old Gasol is stupid.  Just plain stupid.

The Lakers don't have any leverage with Gasol.  His trade value is almost non-existant.

Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2013, 10:54:33 PM »

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If it was strictly PP for Gasol, maybe but by doing the trade you are giving away cap space for another year.  If someone really thinks they would trade Earl Clark also they're kidding themself.  They aren't trading 2 bigs for an undersized PF and PP. 

I want to see Sullinger get 25 - 30 minutes nightly and see what he can do.  For now and for the future...

Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2013, 11:00:44 PM »

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We could use Gasol, but if we give up some of our core, I don't think we get better.

I think it's time to call up Fab and see what he can contribute somehow. We still have that. He's balling in the D- League (i know its inferior competition). Lets see what he can do first.
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Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2013, 11:04:35 PM »

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Desperate time call for blowing it up, not putting a bandaid on a dead horse.
Gasol would be a massive upgrade on this team.  He's supremely underrated right now... especially on this forum.  Getting a 7 foot allstar who is several years younger than KG would be nothing but incredible news.  Unfortunately, it'll never happen.  We don't have the assets.  Just not happening.

Also, if you're just now starting to panic, you apparently didn't analyze this roster very well prior to the season.  Nothing that is currently happening is even mildy surprising.  We're a mediocre team without a legit big next to KG... it's been that way since Shaq hobbled off the court. 

Getting Gasol wouldn't be a "bandaid"... it would fix the thing that has plagued us since we stopped being a legit contender.  Unfortunately, it's not even remotely likely it will happen. 

LB33, agree with everything but the last line.

I know it might be wishful thinking, but I think that we have exactly what the Fakers would want. A few things speak to this:

1. Gasol's value is at an alltime low, due to the factors I listed in the OP as well as the fact that he isn't even starting now, and won't with D'Antoni.
2. The Fakers have declared that they want no longterm contracts to impede their flexibility. Pierce's contract is huge this year, and fits the bill for them next year.
3. PP's skills would make him a favorite in LaLaLand and he brings far more skills for shorterm than anyone else the Fakers could get to bite on Gasol's huge contract.

I know I'm hoping as are you. You never know.

P.S. I am pretty surprised that, as you say, Gasol is so undervalued skills-wise on this board.

Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2013, 11:11:03 PM »

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I was hoping this would be a realistic idea.

I'd gladly take Gasol for Green/Bass/Terry (or Lee).

Trading our Captain for an almost as old Gasol is stupid.  Just plain stupid.

The Lakers don't have any leverage with Gasol.  His trade value is almost non-existant.

Fakers have said they won't take back 3 year deals that all 4 of our scraps that no one wants (Green, Lee, Bass, Terry) have.

Despite what they sayI think they would take one of those 4 (not 3 of the 4) plus the flexibility that Pierce's contract gives them.

Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2013, 11:18:35 PM »

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If it was strictly PP for Gasol, maybe but by doing the trade you are giving away cap space for another year.  If someone really thinks they would trade Earl Clark also they're kidding themself.  They aren't trading 2 bigs for an undersized PF and PP. 

I want to see Sullinger get 25 - 30 minutes nightly and see what he can do.  For now and for the future...

Earl Clark is a small forward, much in the mold of a Jeff Green, but with a much lower price tag. The Fakers want desperately to be rid of Pau and his huge contract.

I think we have some leverage here. (I know that I am hoping we have some leverage here. :)).

Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #21 on: January 22, 2013, 11:20:06 PM »

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yeah i want Marc too.. oh wait it's Pau we're talking to... ohh nevermind.

Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #22 on: January 23, 2013, 08:34:02 AM »

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Gasol's season has been so bad, there is no way the Celtics should move Pierce for him. 

Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #23 on: January 23, 2013, 01:24:21 PM »

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Gasol is good. But I prefer more Varejao

Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #24 on: January 23, 2013, 01:24:42 PM »

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Gasol is good. But I prefer more Varejao


Out for the season.

Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #25 on: January 23, 2013, 01:26:10 PM »

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Gasol is good. But I prefer more Varejao


Out for the season.

I knwow he's coming back during playoff

Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #26 on: January 23, 2013, 01:27:50 PM »

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Gasol is good. But I prefer more Varejao


Out for the season.

I knwow he's coming back during playoff


Even if he does, that is the wrong time to try and teach a player the Celtic's system.



They need someone who can learn most of it during the regular season.

Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #27 on: January 23, 2013, 01:28:33 PM »

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Gasol's season has been so bad, there is no way the Celtics should move Pierce for him.
This team is going nowhere as constructed. Moving Pierce, who's clearly lost a step, and hoping that Gasol will bounce back and Green will play better with more minutes is not an unreasonable gamble (though a gamble nonetheless).
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Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #28 on: January 23, 2013, 01:30:05 PM »

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Gasol's season has been so bad, there is no way the Celtics should move Pierce for him.
This team is going nowhere as constructed. Moving Pierce, who's clearly lost a step, and hoping that Gasol will bounce back and Green will play better with more minutes is not an unreasonable gamble (though a gamble nonetheless).


Celtics can only move Pierce in a slam dunk move. 

Re: We need Size::We need Gasol
« Reply #29 on: January 23, 2013, 01:42:45 PM »

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Gasol is good. But I prefer more Varejao


Out for the season.

I knwow he's coming back during playoff


Even if he does, that is the wrong time to try and teach a player the Celtic's system.



They need someone who can learn most of it during the regular season.

Yeah is true. But I am talking for the next future.