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Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #255 on: February 17, 2013, 10:15:31 AM »

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Love this kid.

  Isn't that a travel?

  He is quite a scorer though.

Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #256 on: February 17, 2013, 10:18:09 AM »

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Love this kid.

  Isn't that a travel?

  He is quite a scorer though.

No, it's a nasty step back J.

This kid is going to be so good.  He's on his way to being the best PG in the league in a few years.

Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #257 on: February 17, 2013, 10:30:07 AM »

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Imagine LeBron going back to join him in the summer of '14. Ouch.

A Lebron + Kyrie combination would be unstoppable.


D. Cousins / F. Ezeli / P. Antic
D. West / R. Anderson / C. Copeland
L. Deng / V. Carter / D. Rudez
A. Iguodala / M. Ginobil / B. Gordon
K. Irving / S. Livingston / S. Blake

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Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #258 on: February 17, 2013, 10:33:34 AM »

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I was one of the few that thought Derrick Williams from the T-Wolves was gonna be better than him. I didn't think Irving was gonna be a bust I just thought that Williams had a more competitive edge to him and that would make him more successful in the league.


boy was i wrong.....

Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #259 on: February 17, 2013, 10:55:26 AM »

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Imagine LeBron going back to join him in the summer of '14. Ouch.

A Lebron + Kyrie combination would be unstoppable.
Ah, Lebron, ever the front-runner.
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Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #260 on: February 17, 2013, 11:15:55 AM »

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Imagine LeBron going back to join him in the summer of '14. Ouch.

A Lebron + Kyrie combination would be unstoppable.
Ah, Lebron, ever the front-runner.

He could sell that one as a Cinderella story, healing old wounds with his home city.


D. Cousins / F. Ezeli / P. Antic
D. West / R. Anderson / C. Copeland
L. Deng / V. Carter / D. Rudez
A. Iguodala / M. Ginobil / B. Gordon
K. Irving / S. Livingston / S. Blake

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Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #261 on: February 17, 2013, 11:31:41 AM »

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I remember a PG that used to score 30 points a game quite a bit. Whatever did happen to Allen Iverson?

He won an MVP, carried an extremely weak supporting cast to the NBA Finals, and will eventually be in the Hall of Fame?

Iverson was a great player.  Imagine a less selfish, extremely efficient version who happened to be a model citizen?  That's who Kyrie can be.

For this team, I'd be tempted to take prime Iverson over Rondo, too.  At least we'd have a chance at a title with Iverson.
Remembering the time Iverson went to the finals is like remembering the time Ben Wallace made a free throw.  Both are flukes.   If we had Iverson and Pierce both in their primes at the same time, Pierce would not be the Pierce that we know now.

Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #262 on: February 17, 2013, 11:40:24 AM »

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I remember a PG that used to score 30 points a game quite a bit. Whatever did happen to Allen Iverson?

He won an MVP, carried an extremely weak supporting cast to the NBA Finals, and will eventually be in the Hall of Fame?

Iverson was a great player.  Imagine a less selfish, extremely efficient version who happened to be a model citizen?  That's who Kyrie can be.

For this team, I'd be tempted to take prime Iverson over Rondo, too.  At least we'd have a chance at a title with Iverson.
Remembering the time Iverson went to the finals is like remembering the time Ben Wallace made a free throw.  Both are flukes.   If we had Iverson and Pierce both in their primes at the same time, Pierce would not be the Pierce that we know now.

  Rondo's also taken teams roughly as far as AI ever did as well, and done it at a younger age. I don't think that really adds up to having a chance at a title with Iverson and not with Rondo.

Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #263 on: February 17, 2013, 11:43:17 AM »

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I remember a PG that used to score 30 points a game quite a bit. Whatever did happen to Allen Iverson?

He won an MVP, carried an extremely weak supporting cast to the NBA Finals, and will eventually be in the Hall of Fame?

Iverson was a great player.  Imagine a less selfish, extremely efficient version who happened to be a model citizen?  That's who Kyrie can be.

For this team, I'd be tempted to take prime Iverson over Rondo, too.  At least we'd have a chance at a title with Iverson.
Remembering the time Iverson went to the finals is like remembering the time Ben Wallace made a free throw.  Both are flukes.   If we had Iverson and Pierce both in their primes at the same time, Pierce would not be the Pierce that we know now.

  Rondo's also taken teams roughly as far as AI ever did as well, and done it at a younger age. I don't think that really adds up to having a chance at a title with Iverson and not with Rondo.
And Rondo does it EVERY year.  Not one year out of 13 or 14. 

Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #264 on: February 17, 2013, 11:46:56 AM »

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  Rondo's also taken teams roughly as far as AI ever did as well, and done it at a younger age. I don't think that really adds up to having a chance at a title with Iverson and not with Rondo.

That's nonsense. 

Iverson's fellow starters were George Lynch, Tyrone Hill, Eric Snow, and Theo Ratliff (and later in the year, Dikembe).  In the playoffs, Jumaine Jones started 2/3 of Philly's games.

Rondo's were Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, and Kendrick Perkins.

I think there's a question about who "carried" Rondo's team to the Finals.  There's no question with Iverson's.


D. Cousins / F. Ezeli / P. Antic
D. West / R. Anderson / C. Copeland
L. Deng / V. Carter / D. Rudez
A. Iguodala / M. Ginobil / B. Gordon
K. Irving / S. Livingston / S. Blake

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Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #265 on: February 17, 2013, 12:05:05 PM »

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  Rondo's also taken teams roughly as far as AI ever did as well, and done it at a younger age. I don't think that really adds up to having a chance at a title with Iverson and not with Rondo.

That's nonsense. 

Iverson's fellow starters were George Lynch, Tyrone Hill, Eric Snow, and Theo Ratliff (and later in the year, Dikembe).  In the playoffs, Jumaine Jones started 2/3 of Philly's games.

Rondo's were Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce, Ray Allen, and Kendrick Perkins.

I think there's a question about who "carried" Rondo's team to the Finals.  There's no question with Iverson's.

  It's not nonsense. Those groups of players are a reflection of the kind of players Rondo is and AI was. Tough, defensive players who didn't need the ball in their hands were what worked best with AI, one of the most ball dominant volume shooters we've ever seen. You're giving AI credit for the lack of scoring on a team that was built to complement his style of play. Put better scorers on AI's teams and you wouldn't get the bump in play you seem to expect to see, much like the Heat, which by talent level should be among the most dominant teams in nba history.

Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #266 on: February 17, 2013, 12:08:48 PM »

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Imagine LeBron going back to join him in the summer of '14. Ouch.

A Lebron + Kyrie combination would be unstoppable.
Ah, Lebron, ever the front-runner.

He could sell that one as a Cinderella story, healing old wounds with his home city.
Oh, he's the king of packaging stuff for the masses. But the truth is that with Wade breaking down, and Bosh being utterly replaceable, he really won't have anything to go back to in Miami.
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Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #267 on: February 17, 2013, 12:34:45 PM »

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There's no doubt Irving is better than Rondo.

I am not even sure it's close.

Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #268 on: February 17, 2013, 12:37:16 PM »

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There's no doubt Irving is better than Rondo.

I am not even sure it's close.

  Of course there is, unless your method of comparing players consists entirely of how much they score.

Re: Kyrie > Rondo
« Reply #269 on: February 17, 2013, 12:40:54 PM »

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Love this kid.

Don't reach, young blood!
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