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Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2013, 12:22:33 PM »

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I read that Carlos Boozer has been playing a lot better recently.

A quick look at his stats, over the last 10 games -- Boozer has averaged 22.6 points per game on 53% field goal percentage along with 11.2 rebounds per game in just 34.3 minutes a game.
Yeah we'll need to do a solid job on Boozer to win this game.

Hopefully the C's come out with better energy and aggression tonight.

Id like to see sully on Noah and kg on boozer

I would be interested to see Sully on Boozer. I think Sully's physical strength should be a good asset here. Certainly more so than Bass vs Boozer.

The Sully vs Noah (rebounding purposes) and KG vs Boozer (defense) would be very interesting too. Maybe a bit both of matchups. Test them both out for playoff time.
You do know Bass is stronger right?
You think?

I don't. I think Sullinger has shown more physicality  defensively and has been tougher for opponents to overpower. Opponents rarely go through or over Sullinger (in one-on-one sequences). They gotta go around him. Opponents can do go over over/through Bass. He's too small (height/frame, good strength). Sully is bigger and tougher to overpower.

Bass LOOKS stronger because he has low body fat and big arms, while Sully is chubby and not very toned.

However, I think Sully has much more core strength than Bass. The former is more "solid" than the latter.
He looks stronger because he is.  He's also much older, which makes a huge difference.  Sullinger relies on his body mass to hold his ground.  He only lifted the bench press 9 times in the workouts, outdone by smaller guys like Lilliard and Crowder to name a few.

Bass on the other hand managed 18 lifts, so I guess you could say Bass is twice as strong  ;D.  And that was before 8 years of NBA-level weight training.
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Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2013, 12:24:50 PM »

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How many times you can do a lift doesn't equal basketball strength.

Sullinger plays a lot stronger than Bass. Both on the offensive and defensive end.

Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2013, 12:43:38 PM »

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How many times you can do a lift doesn't equal basketball strength.

Sullinger plays a lot stronger than Bass. Both on the offensive and defensive end.
No it equals actual strength.

Sullinger weighs more.
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2013, 12:56:47 PM »

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How many times you can do a lift doesn't equal basketball strength.

Sullinger plays a lot stronger than Bass. Both on the offensive and defensive end.
No it equals actual strength.

Sullinger weighs more.
Since when does strength = upper arm strength when measured by bench press, when we're talking about basketball?

Sullinger plays stronger than Bass, weight matters when you're talking about strength. So does your core and your legs.

Unless you think Boozer is going to compare gym reps with Sully/Bass when he posts up or tries to get rebounding position.

Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2013, 01:36:54 PM »

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How many times you can do a lift doesn't equal basketball strength.

Sullinger plays a lot stronger than Bass. Both on the offensive and defensive end.
No it equals actual strength.

Sullinger weighs more.
Since when does strength = upper arm strength when measured by bench press, when we're talking about basketball?

Sullinger plays stronger than Bass, weight matters when you're talking about strength. So does your core and your legs.

Unless you think Boozer is going to compare gym reps with Sully/Bass when he posts up or tries to get rebounding position.
I was just giving it as one example...... because that's the only one we have.  If he's that significantly better in one area of the gym chances are he's a hard worker.  You've also got to take into consideration he's been alive 8 years longer.

Sullinger USES his strength more, I think there's a clear distinction.  Notice how much more often he gets called for fouls.  He backs down more and fights for position more.  On the other hand you don't see him dunking in traffic or getting to the line like Bass.

Obviously I'm not discounting Sullinger's weight or his ability to hold his ground.  His weight gives him huge advantages over Bass in terms of using his strength.  Dwight Howard can't move Big Baby but that doesn't mean he's not much stronger.
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Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2013, 06:00:26 PM »

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Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #21 on: January 18, 2013, 06:35:18 PM »

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#Celticstalk: #Celtics guard Avery Bradley not expected to play tonight.

Pick up the slack and bring the energy none the less.
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Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #22 on: January 18, 2013, 06:47:21 PM »

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Maybe we'll get to see national-TV Rondo tonight, but we're gonna miss Avery and I expect Pierce to get owned by Deng once again. Not having a good feeling about this one...
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Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #23 on: January 18, 2013, 07:06:02 PM »

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Barbosa to start in place of avery.


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Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #24 on: January 18, 2013, 07:07:20 PM »

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Rondo's pregame ritual/routine was just on ESPN right now

LOL
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Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #25 on: January 18, 2013, 07:10:53 PM »

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If Sully has a good game gets us some offensive rebounds and can box out Noah then we win
"7ft PG. Rondo leaves and GUESS WHAT? We got a BIGGER point guard!"-Tommy on Olynyk


Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2013, 07:11:50 PM »

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anybody else pumped up with LEONARDO in starting 5  ;D
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Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #27 on: January 18, 2013, 07:12:24 PM »

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This looks ugly already they look ready to kill us and we look content with just showing up
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Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #28 on: January 18, 2013, 07:13:39 PM »

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Rondo's pregame ritual/routine was just on ESPN right now

LOL
After Jet described his ritual/routine he had many people wondering what it looked like.

Re: Bulls (22-15) at Celtics (20-18) 1/18
« Reply #29 on: January 18, 2013, 07:16:13 PM »

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refs are off to a good start