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« on: January 15, 2013, 07:42:02 AM »

- Bass (6)
- Terry (5)
- Collins (800k)
- Barbosa (800k)
- Wilcox (800k)

Also, generally expendable in the right deal:

- 2013 1st
- Fab Melo (1)
- 2013 2nd

The cap number is in parentheses.  Altogether we're talking about ~14-15 million.  Maximum money you could probably put in a deal is more like 12-13.

If Danny makes a trade, I'd be okay seeing any of these players / assets go.  But I don't want to trade anybody else unless it's for a major impact player.

Yes, that means the options for trades are very limited.  There's a reason these players are listed as expendable.
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2013, 07:47:10 AM »

Based on current rotation, Jason Terry is the only expendable piece we have. Unless someone is going to trade us two rotation-capable big men for Bass + Terry, which I find laughable.

Collins, Barbosa, and Wilcox have zero trade value.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2013, 07:53:18 AM »

I don't agree that Terry is expendable.  He is not playing well right now, but he is a proven clutch playoff performer.  He'll be there for us in the playoffs.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2013, 07:55:21 AM »

Terry aside, trade value of all other players are next to nothing.
And Terry would only be targeted by another team trying to contend, which means, we will not be getting good pieces in return.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2013, 07:59:01 AM »

Based on current rotation, Jason Terry is the only expendable piece we have. Unless someone is going to trade us two rotation-capable big men for Bass + Terry, which I find laughable.

Collins, Barbosa, and Wilcox have zero trade value.

I'd trade Bass + Terry for an upgrade at PF.

Of course, I can't imagine how we could find such a deal.

And yes, the other players are just filler.

So therein lies the difficulty of coming up with a suitable trade based on this roster.
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2013, 08:38:58 AM »

I don't agree that Terry is expendable.  He is not playing well right now, but he is a proven clutch playoff performer.  He'll be there for us in the playoffs.

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Bass and a pick is my package that I am kicking the tires on to see what center it can get us. Any center. and when all the gm's say I dont want that package I sit tight with what we have.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2013, 08:42:14 AM »

- Bass (6)
- Terry (5)
- Collins (800k)
- Barbosa (800k)
- Wilcox (800k)

Also, generally expendable in the right deal:

- 2013 1st
- Fab Melo (1)
- 2013 2nd

The cap number is in parentheses.  Altogether we're talking about ~14-15 million.  Maximum money you could probably put in a deal is more like 12-13.

If Danny makes a trade, I'd be okay seeing any of these players / assets go.  But I don't want to trade anybody else unless it's for a major impact player.

Yes, that means the options for trades are very limited.  There's a reason these players are listed as expendable.

Can I ask why players are being judged as expendable based on their play over a 6 game stretch?

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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2013, 08:46:59 AM »

I think its really shortsighted to trade anyone based on a six game sample.
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2013, 08:48:16 AM »

While I love that the C's are playing good basketball finally, I can't say anyone's expendable at the moment. I don't trust the current rotation to continue to work out.

I mean Terry's expendable if Lee/Green/Bradley continue to provide scoring, but I don't want to count on Green to keep this up. The other two I have more faith in, but Bradley's still just coming back himself.
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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2013, 08:48:38 AM »

Bass, Barbosa, first for Millsap?
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2013, 08:51:40 AM »

I don't agree with the OP's statement.

These are team wins.  As well, Bass has been quite solid.  He's actually been playing defense for the first time all year and blocking some shots.

You'd also change your tune real quick if someone went down with an injury.

If we could just trade Bass and a pick for a big that'd be fine.  But I don't see it happening.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2013, 08:59:28 AM »

Everyone not named KG, Rondo and Pierce.




The best time to trade a guy is when the fans think he is untradable because of his current play.
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2013, 09:02:11 AM »

Bass, Barbosa, first for Millsap?

I was for trading Bass, but I don't know now.  He's playing pretty good defense as of late.  Maybe he thinks he could lost his starting job to Sully.  Whatever the reason, me likey!
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2013, 09:03:23 AM »

I don't agree that Terry is expendable.  He is not playing well right now, but he is a proven clutch playoff performer.  He'll be there for us in the playoffs.
He's not expendable because he's playing poorly, he's expendable because he's the only redundant piece on a roster with some rotation issues. This doesn't mean he'll be shipped out tomorrow (precisely because of his proven playoff mettle), but in relative terms he's probably cause the least disruption in our rotation if traded.

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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2013, 09:06:34 AM »

Everyone not named KG, Rondo and Pierce.




The best time to trade a guy is when the fans think he is untradable because of his current play.

I'm tempted to throw Avery in there too. The more I see him play, the more the idea of him playing on another team bums me out.
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