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The Denver Post believes Timofey Mozgov will be dealt before the February 21 trade deadline.

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Re: Mozgov trade ideas (merged)
« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2013, 01:41:38 PM »

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I've been saying to do this deal for the past few weeks or so:

Brandon Bass for Mozgov and A. Randolph

I've suggested the same, though it's certainly a risky deal for the Cs. Not a ton of upside, but plently of potential downside....

I don't think Anthony Randolph will ever be a serviceable player in this league. I wouldn't do this trade seeing as how it costs ownership twice as much money as his contract is worth based on the luxury tax.


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Re: Mozgov trade ideas (merged)
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2013, 01:43:04 PM »

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Not interested at all.  Why trade for a guy who is worse than Chris Andersen, who we could sign without giving up anything?

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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2013, 01:43:32 PM »

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Denver shouldn't trade Wilson Chandler for Bass.

Wilson Chandler is far more valuable both individually and to Denver with his multi-positional play versus the one position and limited undersized PF Brandon Bass.

Re: Mozgov trade ideas (merged)
« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2013, 01:45:00 PM »

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My initial reaction (maybe because I've already been thinking about Mozgov): Get him. He's tall, and huge, and reasonably skilled for a guy his size. And did I mention huge?

My co-worker who's a Nuggets fan says Mozgov is solid, he just happens to be on a team with a lot of center depth. I prefer to keep Melo, so if we can get Mozgov and Randolph for Bass, great. Bass might make a nice backup to Faried and/or Gallinari, and Boston gets a couple of 7-footers to beef up its frontcourt. Start Mozgov, move KG to the 4, bring Sully in to spell KG, Wilcox for Mozgov, then you still have Randolph for extra relief, and Collins as a situational guy.

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If we can get Randolph and Mozgov for Bass I do that in a second. Reluctant to give up on Melo however. Id rather give up a first and keep Melo.
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2013, 01:47:22 PM »

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Denver shouldn't trade Wilson Chandler for Bass.

Wilson Chandler is far more valuable both individually and to Denver with his multi-positional play versus the one position and limited undersized PF Brandon Bass.

So you do the trade? If you're the Celtics?


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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2013, 01:47:25 PM »

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I've been saying to do this deal for the past few weeks or so:

Brandon Bass for Mozgov and A. Randolph

I've suggested the same, though it's certainly a risky deal for the Cs. Not a ton of upside, but plently of potential downside....

That's true to an extent, but I'd say the same with Bass individually. I don't think he'll get much better as a player (not saying his a terrible player though) and with the remaining years on his deal, it can be viewed as downside.

Overall I agree with your assessment of it being a somewhat risky deal (for both teams).

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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2013, 01:50:13 PM »

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Not interested at all.  Why trade for a guy who is worse than Chris Andersen, who we could sign without giving up anything?

Mizgov isnt a better a player now than Chris Andersen was 3 years ago, but is he better than Chris is now? If Chris was the same player he was a few years ago, Miami would've signed him by now after working him out. Crazy thought,  but maybe persistent knee issues and being out of the league for an extended amount of time has changed what he can do NOW.
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2013, 01:55:20 PM »

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Denver shouldn't trade Wilson Chandler for Bass.

Wilson Chandler is far more valuable both individually and to Denver with his multi-positional play versus the one position and limited undersized PF Brandon Bass.

So you do the trade? If you're the Celtics?
Yes, of course. It's a great deal for Boston.

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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2013, 01:56:15 PM »

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Andersen seemed pretty good last year but since those allegations nobody has wanted to touch him with a ten foot pole.

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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2013, 01:57:24 PM »

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Not interested at all.  Why trade for a guy who is worse than Chris Andersen, who we could sign without giving up anything?

Mizgov isnt a better a player now than Chris Andersen was 3 years ago, but is he better than Chris is now? If Chris was the same player he was a few years ago, Miami would've signed him by now after working him out. Crazy thought,  but maybe persistent knee issues and being out of the league for an extended amount of time has changed what he can do NOW.

His legal issues have to be considered as the or part of the reason for him not being signed yet.

You could be right though.


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« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2013, 02:05:06 PM »

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Denver shouldn't trade Wilson Chandler for Bass.

Wilson Chandler is far more valuable both individually and to Denver with his multi-positional play versus the one position and limited undersized PF Brandon Bass.

So you do the trade? If you're the Celtics?
Yes, of course. It's a great deal for Boston.

Well I would like to revisit your thoughts on why Denver would be foolish to do it.

Both Mozgov and Chandler are out of the rotation. There isn't really any minutes on their team for them at the moment. In fact they are really only missing a backup PF.

*Lawson and Miller man the PG minutes.
*Igoudala and Brewer get the majority of the SG minutes with Lawson/Miller getting some  when they share the floor together
*Gallinari and Igoudala get the SF minutes
* Fraried and Gallinari get the PF minutes
*Koufos and McGhee get the Center minutes

By acquiring Bass they have more alternatives for a backup PF for Fraried. Let's not forget their first round pick Evan Fournier is also a SG and he will need minutes at some time too. Chandler is on an expensive deal for a Coach's DNP player.

I see a lot of reasons for them to move him.


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Re: Mozgov trade ideas (merged)
« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2013, 02:05:21 PM »

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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2013, 02:08:56 PM »

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Trivia: what three players have the worst net plus/minus on the Denver Nuggets this year?

http://www.82games.com/1213/1213DEN.HTM

Look who has the best.... None of those players play consistently enough for +/- to be relevant.


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Re: Mozgov trade ideas (merged)
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2013, 02:12:13 PM »

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But I don't see any upside to him.  Unlike Stiemer, who was clearly a shot blocking specialist, Mozgov never jumped out at me as a guy who did any one thing well. 

He's no Stiemsma, but he was 17th last season in block% among players with 500 or more minutes played and he is blocking shots at a similar rate this season.
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Re: Mozgov trade ideas (merged)
« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2013, 02:13:45 PM »

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Trivia: what three players have the worst net plus/minus on the Denver Nuggets this year?

http://www.82games.com/1213/1213DEN.HTM

Look who has the best.... None of those players play consistently enough for +/- to be relevant.

Yeah, but he makes a fair point; Randolph, Mozgov, and Chandler are playing like dookie. Personally for me, I see a deal in the making because of that. But its true, they're the hot garbage of the rotation.

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