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Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #45 on: January 12, 2013, 03:24:04 PM »

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I'm with OP here. Thought Sully would be an absolutely terrible player, and blasted the Celtics draft this year. I'm more than happy to be so completely wrong about Sullinger.

My thoughts on Melo, on the other hand...

Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #46 on: January 12, 2013, 03:32:33 PM »

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I need to say this again b/c this is a Sully love fest going on...

Sully could probably put up Love numbers if he was the main man on a team too. When Sully is on the court he is probably the 5th guy on offense at all times and mostly touches the ball to pass it. He has to constantly worry about stepping on 1000 vets' toes. Not only does Sully pick up rookie fouls b/c he is a rookie, refs don't care about fouling him out because he isn't the franchise rookie like Love was... we have other guys in the spotlight here. If Sully was the main guy on a team refs would swallow their whistles a little more for him (my opinion of the bias in the SterNBA). He would have also been gifted minutes instead of having to earn them here (or have to take less minutes b/c of who we have).
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Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #47 on: January 12, 2013, 04:33:42 PM »

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Sully could probably put up Love numbers if he was the main man on a team too.

This is going a little overboard, in my opinion.

Kevin Love numbers are somewhere around 26 points and 13 rebounds while shooting 40% from three.  I don't think Sully is anywhere near that level at this point.


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Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #48 on: January 12, 2013, 04:35:08 PM »

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I'm with OP here. Thought Sully would be an absolutely terrible player, and blasted the Celtics draft this year. I'm more than happy to be so completely wrong about Sullinger.

I'm surprised by all the folks who didn't like Sully at draft time.  With the 21st pick, I thought he was an absolute no-brainer. 

Who did you prefer at the time?


D. Cousins / F. Ezeli / P. Antic
D. West / R. Anderson / C. Copeland
L. Deng / V. Carter / D. Rudez
A. Iguodala / M. Ginobil / B. Gordon
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Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #49 on: January 12, 2013, 04:35:41 PM »

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I'm loving this, really.

I thought Sully, and also Bradley, were assets to develop for future trades, but these kids are so different from Big Al, to name the biggest project before KG. These kids play D, not good D, but fierce D. They are both building blocks, you need this kind of players to start or come off the bench for your team, and they have the talent to (hopefully) be great players in this league. They can score right now, and they'll only improve in that area.

Now we just need, at least, a Big who can protect the rim and a wing scorer. Melo and Green could be those, but they have to prove it. Add Courtney Lee and a couple of quality role players, one at the wing and one big. Of course, Melo and Green could end not reaching their potential, but I think Danny needs to keep those players to take a chance on that team. Terry, Wilcox, Bass, are players to try to win now, while KG and the Captain are still playing. But that young core needs to stay in green.

Give Sully another month. He'll be even better.

Go Celtics

Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #50 on: January 12, 2013, 06:12:00 PM »

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I'm with OP here. Thought Sully would be an absolutely terrible player, and blasted the Celtics draft this year. I'm more than happy to be so completely wrong about Sullinger.

My thoughts on Melo, on the other hand...
Please. Let's not quickly judge the player when he haven't even see the professional court.

Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #51 on: January 12, 2013, 06:25:13 PM »

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I think Melo have more upside than Gortat. I wouldn't trade him either.

ditto

Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #52 on: January 12, 2013, 06:34:54 PM »

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Im still holding my breath on Sully..not sold on him yet

Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #53 on: January 12, 2013, 08:24:37 PM »

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I think Melo have more upside than Gortat. I wouldn't trade him either.

ditto


I agree Melo should be as Gortat by end of next year.  ANd has more ability and easier higher ceiling.

I frankly don't see much to Gortat...If Collins could shoot and play pick n roll a little ,he'd be as good.

I wouldn't trade Rondo,  AB or Sully, Pierce or Green for Gortat..


Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #54 on: January 12, 2013, 11:28:25 PM »

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I'm with OP here. Thought Sully would be an absolutely terrible player, and blasted the Celtics draft this year. I'm more than happy to be so completely wrong about Sullinger.

I'm surprised by all the folks who didn't like Sully at draft time.  With the 21st pick, I thought he was an absolute no-brainer. 

Who did you prefer at the time?

Jeff Taylor, PJ3, John Jenkins, to name a few. I really, really did not like Sullinger.

Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #55 on: January 12, 2013, 11:37:10 PM »

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I'm with OP here. Thought Sully would be an absolutely terrible player, and blasted the Celtics draft this year. I'm more than happy to be so completely wrong about Sullinger.

I'm surprised by all the folks who didn't like Sully at draft time.  With the 21st pick, I thought he was an absolute no-brainer. 

Who did you prefer at the time?

At 21 he was well worth the risk. Not to mention at the time having 22 as insurance

Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #56 on: January 13, 2013, 03:10:22 PM »

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I think Melo have more upside than Gortat. I wouldn't trade him either.

agreed. Fabulous Fab Melo will be a defensive giant for us in the future. and he will develop an offensive game also.

Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #57 on: January 13, 2013, 03:20:32 PM »

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Fab Melo will most likely end up being JaJuan Johnson 2.0

If you can include him with other pieces like Bass, Wilcox, Barbosa etc.; to get an upgrade at C position, you do it.
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Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #58 on: January 13, 2013, 03:38:23 PM »

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I'm loving this, really.

I thought Sully, and also Bradley, were assets to develop for future trades, but these kids are so different from Big Al, to name the biggest project before KG. These kids play D, not good D, but fierce D. They are both building blocks, you need this kind of players to start or come off the bench for your team, and they have the talent to (hopefully) be great players in this league. They can score right now, and they'll only improve in that area.

Now we just need, at least, a Big who can protect the rim and a wing scorer. Melo and Green could be those, but they have to prove it. Add Courtney Lee and a couple of quality role players, one at the wing and one big. Of course, Melo and Green could end not reaching their potential, but I think Danny needs to keep those players to take a chance on that team. Terry, Wilcox, Bass, are players to try to win now, while KG and the Captain are still playing. But that young core needs to stay in green.

Give Sully another month. He'll be even better.

Go Celtics
i think the job ainge has done in getting the team ready to transistion from kg and pp is really amazing
either as trade blocks or the nucleus of the next group he has put together some nice talent, adding to that kg, terry and pp $ coming off books in 2 or so years
green, bass, sully, lee, rondo, bradley (maybe melo) are all young and good, keep that group together and sign a top notch free agent....interesting

Re: My Personal Apology to Sully
« Reply #59 on: January 13, 2013, 03:44:56 PM »

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Fab Melo will most likely end up being JaJuan Johnson 2.0

If you can include him with other pieces like Bass, Wilcox, Barbosa etc.; to get an upgrade at C position, you do it.

Melo has a much higher ceiling than JJJ....Johnson was a four year player in college...generally those guys dont improve that much

Melo on the other hand has barely been playing basketball that long. the scouting report on him always was that he has great defensive instincts/blocker BUT is VERY RAW

 

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