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Offline hpantazo

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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #60 on: January 13, 2013, 09:23:02 PM »
I'm not sure exactly how we'd work this but it would almost certainly have to be a three way and a small contract added to it but Kaman of Dallas is on a one year deal and they certainly aren't going anywhere.  Dallas doesn't use him nearly enough.

Kaman makes 8mil.  Bass 6mil. So we'd have to send out 7.5ish which means a two of the 800k contracts probably.  It doesn't work out well but Kaman would be the perfect kind of big center we could use.  He is a very underrated guy with a solid jumper, post game, and blocks shots.

We'd need to send out a little less than 6.4 mil for Kaman, so Bass + anyone works.  Sending out more helps with respect to the hard cap, but is not required.

Dallas isn't taking on Bass... they are saving up for CP and DH run! Kaman is just what they need b/c he will be off the books.

Hence why the OP suggested a third team, and I suggested Dalembert earlier in this thread, as his expiring contract won't harm Cuban's off-season plans. 

So something like:

Bass to Milwaukee
Dalembert, Barbosa, and some sort of future draft compensation to Dallas
Kaman to Boston

The Bucks already have too many power forwards, why the heck would they want Bass?

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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #61 on: January 13, 2013, 09:26:33 PM »
If we wanted Kaman, we would have to do a 3 team trade. ATL could use a backup PF, especially one with a jumper. For the record, This trade works in Realgm.com Trade Checker (I added picks)

BOS sends: Brandon Bass, 2013 1st, BYK 2014 2nd (Owed to us)
BOS receives: Chris Kaman

DAL sends: Chris Kaman
DAL receives: ZaZa Pachulia, BOS 2013 1st, BYK 2014 2nd

ATL sends: ZaZa Pachulia
ATL gets: Brandon Bass

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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #62 on: January 13, 2013, 09:29:11 PM »
If we wanted Kaman, we would have to do a 3 team trade. ATL could use a backup PF, especially one with a jumper. For the record, This trade works in Realgm.com Trade Checker (I added picks)

BOS sends: Brandon Bass, 2013 1st, BYK 2014 2nd (Owed to us)
BOS receives: Chris Kaman

DAL sends: Chris Kaman
DAL receives: ZaZa Pachulia, BOS 2013 1st, BYK 2014 2nd

ATL sends: ZaZa Pachulia
ATL gets: Brandon Bass

Not bad, but I wouldn't give up a 1st round pick to get Kaman. He's not worth it imo.

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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #63 on: January 13, 2013, 09:35:52 PM »
If we wanted Kaman, we would have to do a 3 team trade. ATL could use a backup PF, especially one with a jumper. For the record, This trade works in Realgm.com Trade Checker (I added picks)

BOS sends: Brandon Bass, 2013 1st, BYK 2014 2nd (Owed to us)
BOS receives: Chris Kaman

DAL sends: Chris Kaman
DAL receives: ZaZa Pachulia, BOS 2013 1st, BYK 2014 2nd

ATL sends: ZaZa Pachulia
ATL gets: Brandon Bass

Not bad, but I wouldn't give up a 1st round pick to get Kaman. He's not worth it imo.

If it helps, I've heard the 2013 draft isn't going to be spectacular, and a lot of prospects don't look NBA ready. I'm guessing there's going to be a lot of kids staying in school another year. On the other hand, we have a good chance of landing in the 19-21 range again this year. Rondo(21), Bradley(19), Sully(21), Who could be next?

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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #64 on: January 13, 2013, 11:48:13 PM »
The Dallas Mavericks will be active in looking for ways to upgrade their roster prior to the February trade deadline.

“There’s a 100 percent chance that we’re going to try to do something,” Mavericks owner Mark Cuban said.

Dallas has several players with expiring contracts, which could be attractive to teams trying to cut costs.

“Hopefully that will play to our advantage because (teams) can’t avoid looking at trades,” Cuban said. “But I don’t have a preference one way or the other. I’m not going to do a trade just to do a trade, even if it’s a star. ... It’s hard to find just one guy who puts you over the top. It has to be somebody who gets us to the point where we could get back on track to where we want to be.”

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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #65 on: January 14, 2013, 12:36:22 AM »
A team like Houston, with cap space, could work in a three team deal. Bass to Houston who can take him bc they're under the cap, and then a player similar in salary size to us from a third team looking to cut costs... Houston needs a pf and bass could be a good fit with harden and Lin.

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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #66 on: January 14, 2013, 12:47:16 AM »
A team like Houston, with cap space, could work in a three team deal. Bass to Houston who can take him bc they're under the cap, and then a player similar in salary size to us from a third team looking to cut costs... Houston needs a pf and bass could be a good fit with harden and Lin.

They do need a PF, but not Bass. Morey will want to make a big splash with all that cap space. Between Bass and Patterson/Morris + cap space, they'll most likely go with the latter. Why waste money on someone who isn't much of an upgrade over the PF they already have?
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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #67 on: January 14, 2013, 02:34:40 AM »
If you really want to look for a possible suitor for Bass, start with team depth charts and come up with a list of all teams with at least an outside shot at the playoffs where Bass would be a clear upgrade over one of their top two power forwards.
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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #68 on: January 14, 2013, 03:42:43 AM »
The Dallas Mavericks will be active in looking for ways to upgrade their roster prior to the February trade deadline.

“There’s a 100 percent chance that we’re going to try to do something,” Mavericks owner Mark Cuban said.

Dallas has several players with expiring contracts, which could be attractive to teams trying to cut costs.

“Hopefully that will play to our advantage because (teams) can’t avoid looking at trades,” Cuban said. “But I don’t have a preference one way or the other. I’m not going to do a trade just to do a trade, even if it’s a star. ... It’s hard to find just one guy who puts you over the top. It has to be somebody who gets us to the point where we could get back on track to where we want to be.”

Via Tim MacMahon/ESPNDallas

Bass, filler, and a pick for Marion.

A man can dream.

Actually, if the Cs could somehow trade for Marion without giving up a young asset I'd be really excited.  Marion could look really good playing next to KG.  Can do many of the thing Bass does only he's far more versatile, is a much better rebounder, and he can shoot from outside (a little).

That could be one way to upgrade our front-court without giving up the farm to acquire a young player with size.
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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #69 on: January 14, 2013, 09:25:07 AM »
Mavs aren't trading Marion for a role player (Bass) who has longer term deal like that. They want to keep their cap space open for this off season. Plus they aren't upgrading their rotation, they'd have a massive hole on the wing then.

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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #70 on: January 14, 2013, 10:16:52 AM »
Mavs aren't trading Marion for a role player (Bass) who has longer term deal like that. They want to keep their cap space open for this off season. Plus they aren't upgrading their rotation, they'd have a massive hole on the wing then.
Not to mention that Marion is, well, Jeff Green. The only thing such a deal would do is create (more) positional logjam.
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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #71 on: January 14, 2013, 10:28:52 AM »
Mavs aren't trading Marion for a role player (Bass) who has longer term deal like that. They want to keep their cap space open for this off season. Plus they aren't upgrading their rotation, they'd have a massive hole on the wing then.
Not to mention that Marion is, well, Jeff Green. The only thing such a deal would do is create (more) positional logjam.

I'd love Marion as much as the next guy but these replies are right. Marion isnt being traded for Bass. Also, we arent trading for Marion unless we have a deal in place for Green. And since Green is younger and at this point probably better than Marion due to Marions age, I just dont see it happening.
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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #72 on: January 14, 2013, 10:30:51 AM »
Mavs aren't trading Marion for a role player (Bass) who has longer term deal like that. They want to keep their cap space open for this off season. Plus they aren't upgrading their rotation, they'd have a massive hole on the wing then.
Not to mention that Marion is, well, Jeff Green. The only thing such a deal would do is create (more) positional logjam.

Two completely different players - while Marion certainly on the decline, he's an incredible defensive player still. He's two years removed of doing as good of a job defending Lebron James as anyones ever seen.

Meanwhile Green is a much more polished offensive game. Not just the fluidity of his shot, but his ability to get to the rim and create also.

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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #73 on: January 14, 2013, 10:35:15 AM »
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but particularly if Danny wants to use Green to get a big man, I wonder if LA would be interested in a Bass for Artest swap.

Artest would give another guy to throw at Lebron, and he would fit in with the C's defensive identity that they seem to be reclaiming. 

And for the Lakers, Bass would be a nice upgrade over Jamison as a midrange shooting PF who can run the pick and pop, and might be a decent fit in their system. 

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Re: Possible suitor for Bass?
« Reply #74 on: January 14, 2013, 10:37:30 AM »
Mavs aren't trading Marion for a role player (Bass) who has longer term deal like that. They want to keep their cap space open for this off season. Plus they aren't upgrading their rotation, they'd have a massive hole on the wing then.
Not to mention that Marion is, well, Jeff Green. The only thing such a deal would do is create (more) positional logjam.

Two completely different players - while Marion certainly on the decline, he's an incredible defensive player still. He's two years removed of doing as good of a job defending Lebron James as anyones ever seen.

Meanwhile Green is a much more polished offensive game. Not just the fluidity of his shot, but his ability to get to the rim and create also.
They are the same player from a roster management perspective, as in they can't be on the floor at the same time, because they can't really play multiple positions effectively. Therefore adding Marion would be pretty much a waste of resources.
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