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Re: Rumor: Memphis shopping Rudy gay
« Reply #60 on: January 04, 2013, 05:33:38 PM »

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I know this has almost zero possibility of happening; however, if u are going to blow up this incarnation of the c's, I think this is a great way to do it.     4 way trade (bos, mem,  sac, tor). Really it's two separate trades.  Part 1 is a derivative of bill Simmons proposal.  part 2 is a straight up Pierce for Gay swap. 

Boston gets: Evans Cousins Bargnani Lowry Gay   

Mem gets: Pierce   

Sac gets: Rondo Melo   

Tor gets: Green Bradley 


 Picks may have to be thrown in to sweeten things, and Toronto may not want Green. But Danny could remake the team overnight with young athletic talent around KG.

Re: Rumor: Memphis shopping Rudy gay
« Reply #61 on: January 04, 2013, 05:34:27 PM »

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Sources tell Grantland.com that Memphis has "made it known in preliminary talks with other teams that Rudy Gay could be available via trade."

The Grizzlies are 20-9 and Gay leads them in scoring at 18.0 points per game. But he's set to earn $37 million in the next two seasons and the Grizz are already $4 million over the luxury tax, hence the trade rumors. Still, we'd consider the odds of a deal going down very long. Teams won't be in a hurry to pay Gay's salary and the Grizz could very well decide to just saddle up and make a run at the title this year. They'll need their best pure scorer to do that.

Source: Grantland.com

Re: Rumor: Memphis shopping Rudy gay
« Reply #62 on: January 04, 2013, 06:10:53 PM »

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I know this has almost zero possibility of happening; however, if u are going to blow up this incarnation of the c's, I think this is a great way to do it.     4 way trade (bos, mem,  sac, tor). Really it's two separate trades.  Part 1 is a derivative of bill Simmons proposal.  part 2 is a straight up Pierce for Gay swap. 

Boston gets: Evans Cousins Bargnani Lowry Gay   

Mem gets: Pierce   

Sac gets: Rondo Melo   

Tor gets: Green Bradley 


 Picks may have to be thrown in to sweeten things, and Toronto may not want Green. But Danny could remake the team overnight with young athletic talent around KG.

This is the most interesting blow up scenario, for sure. Can't see it happening, but I loved the idea. TP :)

Re: Rumor: Memphis shopping Rudy gay
« Reply #63 on: January 04, 2013, 06:36:47 PM »

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Wow, this surprises me

Memphis has one of the best cores in the NBA...can't believe they'd be looking to break that up because of money.


Well anyway, I think Rudy would fit like a glove with what the Celtics need. An athletic wing, effective shooter, young and athletic who could help the Celts for the short term and long-tern.

Remember, this is what Jeff Green was suppose to be, but he's not even in Rudy's league.

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« Reply #64 on: January 04, 2013, 07:12:57 PM »

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I know this has almost zero possibility of happening; however, if u are going to blow up this incarnation of the c's, I think this is a great way to do it.     4 way trade (bos, mem,  sac, tor). Really it's two separate trades.  Part 1 is a derivative of bill Simmons proposal.  part 2 is a straight up Pierce for Gay swap. 

Boston gets: Evans Cousins Bargnani Lowry Gay   

Mem gets: Pierce   

Sac gets: Rondo Melo   

Tor gets: Green Bradley 


 Picks may have to be thrown in to sweeten things, and Toronto may not want Green. But Danny could remake the team overnight with young athletic talent around KG.

This is the most interesting blow up scenario, for sure. Can't see it happening, but I loved the idea. TP :)
That's blowing it up but that team would stink! 7-8 seed possible lottery team.

Re: Rumor: Memphis shopping Rudy gay
« Reply #65 on: January 04, 2013, 07:51:25 PM »

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What are your thoughts on this trade?
To Cleveland: Rudy Gay, Kris Joseph
To Boston: Anderson Varejao
To Memphis: Jason Terry, Alonzo Gee, Fab Melo, First from Boston

Get’s Memphis under the tax, gives them an athletic 3 to replace Gay and the 3 point shooter that they sorely need.

I almost like it.  I don't like giving up Terry. His 3 point shot is going to be too important should the Celtics make the playoffs.
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Re: Rumor: Memphis shopping Rudy gay
« Reply #66 on: January 04, 2013, 09:02:54 PM »

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The quickness, athleticism and defensive energy of a Rajon Rondo + Avery Bradley + Rudy Gay perimeter trio would be a sight to see.

That defensive quickness would be exceptional.

Re: Rumor: Memphis shopping Rudy gay
« Reply #67 on: January 04, 2013, 09:16:48 PM »

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Pierce is better than Rudy Gay.

General rule of thumb for trades acquire THE best player in the trade. In this case Celtics will giving away the unequivocal best player in the trade.

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« Reply #68 on: January 04, 2013, 09:25:40 PM »

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I don't think Hollinger is as tied to PER as many people believe.

I think that ESPN was tied to PER and that PER was a simple statistic that was easy for general readership to grasp and understand.

I think Hollinger has a much more varied mind when it comes to these things. I have vague memories of Hollinger talking about the limitations of PER as well as saying he wasn't able to put more complex mathematical analysis onto ESPN. That his role there and the role of PER was more of an introduction of mathematical analysis and basketball into mainstream media.

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« Reply #69 on: January 04, 2013, 09:26:39 PM »

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What are your thoughts on this trade?
To Cleveland: Rudy Gay, Kris Joseph
To Boston: Anderson Varejao
To Memphis: Jason Terry, Alonzo Gee, Fab Melo, First from Boston

Get’s Memphis under the tax, gives them an athletic 3 to replace Gay and the 3 point shooter that they sorely need.

I almost like it.  I don't like giving up Terry. His 3 point shot is going to be too important should the Celtics make the playoffs.
Thanks, Terry seems to need people to create for him at this point. I feel like we would be OK without him. I think Lee and Bradley will eventually hit and they can spread the floor.
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Re: Rumor: Memphis shopping Rudy gay
« Reply #70 on: January 05, 2013, 12:44:19 AM »

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How about this trade?
To Boston: Gortat
To Phoenix: Rudy Gay, Jason Collins
To Memphis: Jason Terry, Jared Dudley and a first.

Or

To Boston: Paul Milsap
To Utah: Rudy Gay
To Memphis: Jason Terry, Mo Williams, Fab Melo, Kris Joseph
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Re: Rumor: Memphis shopping Rudy gay
« Reply #71 on: January 05, 2013, 02:51:54 AM »

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No way Mem trades Gay.  They're playing as good a ball as anyone, scary team to face in the playoffs.

Re: Rumor: Memphis shopping Rudy gay
« Reply #72 on: January 05, 2013, 04:03:36 AM »

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Rudy and Tony for Bradley, Lee, Bass and Green

Tony replaces Bradley and Gay or Pierce start at SG
Can't stop, Rondo!

Re: Rumor: Memphis shopping Rudy gay
« Reply #73 on: January 05, 2013, 08:31:00 AM »

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I don't think Hollinger is as tied to PER as many people believe.

I think that ESPN was tied to PER and that PER was a simple statistic that was easy for general readership to grasp and understand.

I think Hollinger has a much more varied mind when it comes to these things. I have vague memories of Hollinger talking about the limitations of PER as well as saying he wasn't able to put more complex mathematical analysis onto ESPN. That his role there and the role of PER was more of an introduction of mathematical analysis and basketball into mainstream media.

Good news is it's very simple to see what Hollinger thinks of every player in the NBA. Bad news is he doesn't think much of our mid-level vet crew.

Re: Rumor: Memphis shopping Rudy gay
« Reply #74 on: January 05, 2013, 09:19:38 AM »

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Pierce is better than Rudy Gay.

General rule of thumb for trades acquire THE best player in the trade. In this case Celtics will giving away the unequivocal best player in the trade.

Except Pierce is an old man on the downswing.  He could outperform Gay this year and then give Memphis the flexibility of an  affordable buyout next year if that ends up being their direction.  Would be a great move for Boston to get Pierce's younger replacement like that.

You've got to figure age and contract in the equation as well.

 

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