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« on: January 04, 2013, 09:52:40 AM »

Looks like Congress is finally going to approve a little bit of funding today (Jan 4).

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/congress-vote-superstorm-sandy-flood-084229369.html

~$10B now, with a bill worth ~$50B to be voted on in a couple of weeks.
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« Reply #1 on: January 04, 2013, 10:24:52 AM »

Chris Christie deserves a high-five for all his campaigning on this.
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« Reply #2 on: January 04, 2013, 10:31:22 AM »

Chris Christie deserves a high-five for all his campaigning on this.

Ditto. And Cuomo. And Rep. King.
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« Reply #3 on: January 04, 2013, 10:36:41 AM »

Chris Christie deserves a high-five for all his campaigning on this.

Ditto. And Cuomo. And Rep. King.

They're doing what they're elected to do, which is campaign for their states.

On a nationwide level, $60 billion is a lot of cash.  Before voting that money through, I'd like to do a thorough review to make sure it's going to be spent in the right places.  I mean, $60 billion is roughly 1/8th the largest pre-Obama deficit this country had ever run up, so it's not exactly chump change.
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« Reply #4 on: January 04, 2013, 10:37:55 AM »

I wonder if there are some House Republicans (and their financial backers) who want to delay Sandy relief as much as possible to punish Chris Christie because they think his behavior helped hand Obama the presidency.
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« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2013, 12:06:09 PM »

I wonder if there are some House Republicans (and their financial backers) who want to delay Sandy relief as much as possible to punish Chris Christie because they think his behavior helped hand Obama the presidency.

Absolutely. Its petty politics at its best.
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« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2013, 12:12:13 PM »

Chris Christie deserves a high-five for all his campaigning on this.

Ditto. And Cuomo. And Rep. King.

They're doing what they're elected to do, which is campaign for their states.

On a nationwide level, $60 billion is a lot of cash.  Before voting that money through, I'd like to do a thorough review to make sure it's going to be spent in the right places.  I mean, $60 billion is roughly 1/8th the largest pre-Obama deficit this country had ever run up, so it's not exactly chump change.

I agree with your sentiment that we don't want money to be wasted. But, IMHO, the broader issue is the foot-dragging by Congress on this.

It is two months and counting since Sandy hit, and the affected areas haven't received aid from Congress.  In contrast, it took Congress less than two weeks to approve $60+B in hurricane aid for Katrina.
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« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2013, 12:43:12 PM »

Chris Christie deserves a high-five for all his campaigning on this.

Ditto. And Cuomo. And Rep. King.

They're doing what they're elected to do, which is campaign for their states.

On a nationwide level, $60 billion is a lot of cash.  Before voting that money through, I'd like to do a thorough review to make sure it's going to be spent in the right places.  I mean, $60 billion is roughly 1/8th the largest pre-Obama deficit this country had ever run up, so it's not exactly chump change.

I agree with your sentiment that we don't want money to be wasted. But, IMHO, the broader issue is the foot-dragging by Congress on this.

It is two months and counting since Sandy hit, and the affected areas haven't received aid from Congress.  In contrast, it took Congress less than two weeks to approve $60+B in hurricane aid for Katrina.
well, LA IS a RED state afterall.   ;)

joking aside, Christie did himself a big favor with his handling of this issue.  Consider him a lock for the Rep nomination in 2016.  With Hilary's health issues now, he's almost a lock for the white house in 4 years providing he doesn't do anything foolish and no other "current contender" has a nation-impacting grand moment in the next few years
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« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2013, 01:41:57 PM »

It would be a shame if Christie became POTUS and had to meter himself to keep from causing international incidents. I really enjoy his bombastic style even if I don't agree with a lot of what he says.
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« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2013, 01:50:31 PM »

A lot of aid for Katrina relief went to corporations that wasted tons of money supplying things that didn't need supplying. Huge contracts to cruise ship lines to dock ships in New Orleans for temporary housing that never got used and the overbuilding of replacement houses that never got inhabited come to mind.

I think some money should have been appropriated sooner than two months after the disaster struck but I have no problem with being careful and prudent about how the money is spent and watching where it goes.
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« Reply #10 on: January 04, 2013, 02:35:28 PM »

A lot of aid for Katrina relief went to corporations that wasted tons of money supplying things that didn't need supplying. Huge contracts to cruise ship lines to dock ships in New Orleans for temporary housing that never got used and the overbuilding of replacement houses that never got inhabited come to mind.

I think some money should have been appropriated sooner than two months after the disaster struck but I have no problem with being careful and prudent about how the money is spent and watching where it goes.

TP.  I agree with all of this.
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« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2013, 03:22:30 PM »

I think some money should have been appropriated sooner than two months after the disaster struck but I have no problem with being careful and prudent about how the money is spent and watching where it goes.

Completely agree, in principle.

Now, how is the best way to "be prudent"? Set up an agency in DC to administer the aid? Give the money straight to the cities and towns or states, since they should know best?

On a nationwide level, $60 billion is a lot of cash.  Before voting that money through, I'd like to do a thorough review to make sure it's going to be spent in the right places.

Who should do this review?
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2013, 03:26:34 PM »

http://www.politico.com/blogs/charlie-mahtesian/2013/01/the-sandy-aid-vote-northeast-vs-south-153378.html?hp=l5

Thanks for passing the bill!
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« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2013, 03:37:22 PM »

About time, 67 days was too long.  I like Christie because he is a straight shooter and seems more interested in results than politics.   We need more men like him.
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« Reply #14 on: January 04, 2013, 03:41:35 PM »

About time, 67 days was too long.  I like Christie because he is a straight shooter and seems more interested in results than politics.   We need more men like him.

I like Chris Christie, too.  I do think he's playing politics, though perhaps not in a particularly partisan way. 
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