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[kozlodoev]

If the loses keep piling up and Danny will still not fire Rivers than ownership won't have a choice but to can both Ainge and Rivers. Ainge is playing a dangerous game of not doing what is best for the org vs keeping his personal loyalty in tact.

Right, except firing Doc Rivers is not what's "best for the organization". Whoops!

[Smitty77]

Our three games lost in California were by the WORST margin in like 34 years.  So yes, HISTORIC would be a very accurate adjective.

Smitty77

[MBunge]

If the loses keep piling up and Danny will still not fire Rivers than ownership won't have a choice but to can both Ainge and Rivers. Ainge is playing a dangerous game of not doing what is best for the org vs keeping his personal loyalty in tact.

Right, except firing Doc Rivers is not what's "best for the organization". Whoops!

Boy, I wonder what the Celtics will do when Doc "Coach for life" Rivers retires in 30 years and they have to get someone to replace him.  What pitiful mortal could ever hope to follow the Alpha and Omega of all coaching glory?  Maybe by then they'll have perfected human cloning so there shall never be anyone except a "Doc" coaching Boston's intrepid team!

Our Doc, who art in Boston,
Hallowed be Thy name.
Thy contract be ever extended,
Thy decisions never be questioned,
on Earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day another day of not playing Darko.
Forgive us for wondering why you're running Jason Terry off baseline screens.
Lead us not into the temptation of wanting a team that doesn't suck,
But deliver us from the evil of doubting Thine Eternal Perfection,
For Thine is the kingdom,
The power, and the glory.
For ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever.

Amen.

Mike

[CelticsFan9]

If the loses keep piling up and Danny will still not fire Rivers than ownership won't have a choice but to can both Ainge and Rivers. Ainge is playing a dangerous game of not doing what is best for the org vs keeping his personal loyalty in tact.

Right, except firing Doc Rivers is not what's "best for the organization". Whoops!

Boy, I wonder what the Celtics will do when Doc "Coach for life" Rivers retires in 30 years and they have to get someone to replace him.  What pitiful mortal could ever hope to follow the Alpha and Omega of all coaching glory?  Maybe by then they'll have perfected human cloning so there shall never be anyone except a "Doc" coaching Boston's intrepid team!

Our Doc, who art in Boston,
Hallowed be Thy name.
Thy contract be ever extended,
Thy decisions never be questioned,
on Earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day another day of not playing Darko.
Forgive us for wondering why you're running Jason Terry off baseline screens.
Lead us not into the temptation of wanting a team that doesn't suck,
But deliver us from the evil of doubting Thine Eternal Perfection,
For Thine is the kingdom,
The power, and the glory.
For ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever.

Amen.

Mike

Give this guy some TPs for one of the funniest things I've ever read on this forum.

[GreenFaith1819]

Wow...

[kozlodoev]

If the loses keep piling up and Danny will still not fire Rivers than ownership won't have a choice but to can both Ainge and Rivers. Ainge is playing a dangerous game of not doing what is best for the org vs keeping his personal loyalty in tact.

Right, except firing Doc Rivers is not what's "best for the organization". Whoops!

Boy, I wonder what the Celtics will do when Doc "Coach for life" Rivers retires in 30 years and they have to get someone to replace him.  What pitiful mortal could ever hope to follow the Alpha and Omega of all coaching glory?  Maybe by then they'll have perfected human cloning so there shall never be anyone except a "Doc" coaching Boston's intrepid team!

Our Doc, who art in Boston,
Hallowed be Thy name.
Thy contract be ever extended,
Thy decisions never be questioned,
on Earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day another day of not playing Darko.
Forgive us for wondering why you're running Jason Terry off baseline screens.
Lead us not into the temptation of wanting a team that doesn't suck,
But deliver us from the evil of doubting Thine Eternal Perfection,
For Thine is the kingdom,
The power, and the glory.
For ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever.

Amen.

Mike

Very convincing. Has this ever worked when you've run out of reasonable arguments?

[blink]

If the loses keep piling up and Danny will still not fire Rivers than ownership won't have a choice but to can both Ainge and Rivers. Ainge is playing a dangerous game of not doing what is best for the org vs keeping his personal loyalty in tact.

Right, except firing Doc Rivers is not what's "best for the organization". Whoops!

Boy, I wonder what the Celtics will do when Doc "Coach for life" Rivers retires in 30 years and they have to get someone to replace him.  What pitiful mortal could ever hope to follow the Alpha and Omega of all coaching glory?  Maybe by then they'll have perfected human cloning so there shall never be anyone except a "Doc" coaching Boston's intrepid team!

Our Doc, who art in Boston,
Hallowed be Thy name.
Thy contract be ever extended,
Thy decisions never be questioned,
on Earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day another day of not playing Darko.
Forgive us for wondering why you're running Jason Terry off baseline screens.
Lead us not into the temptation of wanting a team that doesn't suck,
But deliver us from the evil of doubting Thine Eternal Perfection,
For Thine is the kingdom,
The power, and the glory.
For ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever.

Amen.

Mike

This is just offensive in so many ways.  Great 'logic' with your thoughts on Doc.  Congrats.  Seems like the forum is turning into the espn comments section where no one has to make a reasonable point.  They just belch out whatever comes to their mind without thinking it through.

Doc is 375-265 for a 59% win % in the years leading up to this season.  We have been in the eastern conf finals 2 out of the last 3 years.  I guess winning so much really spoils some people.

[fantankerous]

If the loses keep piling up and Danny will still not fire Rivers than ownership won't have a choice but to can both Ainge and Rivers. Ainge is playing a dangerous game of not doing what is best for the org vs keeping his personal loyalty in tact.

Right, except firing Doc Rivers is not what's "best for the organization". Whoops!

Boy, I wonder what the Celtics will do when Doc "Coach for life" Rivers retires in 30 years and they have to get someone to replace him.  What pitiful mortal could ever hope to follow the Alpha and Omega of all coaching glory?  Maybe by then they'll have perfected human cloning so there shall never be anyone except a "Doc" coaching Boston's intrepid team!

Our Doc, who art in Boston,
Hallowed be Thy name.
Thy contract be ever extended,
Thy decisions never be questioned,
on Earth as it is in Heaven.
Give us this day another day of not playing Darko.
Forgive us for wondering why you're running Jason Terry off baseline screens.
Lead us not into the temptation of wanting a team that doesn't suck,
But deliver us from the evil of doubting Thine Eternal Perfection,
For Thine is the kingdom,
The power, and the glory.
For ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever.

Amen.

Mike

incredibly lame.

[hpantazo]

Doc is not getting fired while KG and Pierce are still here. KG, Pierce, and Rondo are all on record saying they want to play only for Doc the rest of their careers. If Doc is fired, KG and Pierce will retire, and Rondo will ask for a trade.

[Donoghus]

Doc's not getting fired anytime soon. 

It would take a total mutiny/tune-out for  it to happen or seasons of losing. Not a couple of months.

[bfrombleacher]

Doc is not getting fired while KG and Pierce are still here. KG, Pierce, and Rondo are all on record saying they want to play only for Doc the rest of their careers. If Doc is fired, KG and Pierce will retire, and Rondo will ask for a trade.

Rondo said that?

May I have a link? Not questioning legitimacy just curious.

[vinnie]

Doc is not getting fired while KG and Pierce are still here. KG, Pierce, and Rondo are all on record saying they want to play only for Doc the rest of their careers. If Doc is fired, KG and Pierce will retire, and Rondo will ask for a trade.

I miss the old days when players played and coaches coached and players did not dictate who would coach the team. So tired of the I am going to take my ball and go home if I don't get my way attitude that pervades all sports. I don't believe Doc should be fired, but I hate this crap about what the players will do if he was to be fired.

[Fafnir]

If the loses keep piling up and Danny will still not fire Rivers than ownership won't have a choice but to can both Ainge and Rivers. Ainge is playing a dangerous game of not doing what is best for the org vs keeping his personal loyalty in tact.

What exactly would a new coach change? Doc is trying a lot of different things, I don't like how he's used Terry but that's not why we're struggling certainly.

[Fafnir]

Doc is not getting fired while KG and Pierce are still here. KG, Pierce, and Rondo are all on record saying they want to play only for Doc the rest of their careers. If Doc is fired, KG and Pierce will retire, and Rondo will ask for a trade.

I miss the old days when players played and coaches coached and players did not dictate who would coach the team. So tired of the I am going to take my ball and go home if I don't get my way attitude that pervades all sports. I don't believe Doc should be fired, but I hate this crap about what the players will do if he was to be fired.

But how to maximize your current roster is the job of the coach, if they'd react poorly to his firing that is a consideration.

In this case if Doc goes its almost certainly a signal that we're going into a full rebuild with a new coach. In that case the only player that really matters is Rondo.

[IndeedProceed]

Doc is not getting fired while KG and Pierce are still here. KG, Pierce, and Rondo are all on record saying they want to play only for Doc the rest of their careers. If Doc is fired, KG and Pierce will retire, and Rondo will ask for a trade.

I miss the old days when players played and coaches coached and players did not dictate who would coach the team. So tired of the I am going to take my ball and go home if I don't get my way attitude that pervades all sports. I don't believe Doc should be fired, but I hate this crap about what the players will do if he was to be fired.

My initial response was way more snarky, because this issue also annoys me, but in the reverse. I see no reason why players shouldnt have a huge say in where they play, who they play with, and who coaches them. They aren't children, and they're not incapable of making choices that are not only good for them, but also good for the organization.

Take for instance, guys who will without question outperform their contracts. Guys like Chris Paul, Kevin Durant, LeBron James. Under the current CBA, they unquestionably bring more money to the team, to the area than they actually get paid. Why shouldn't they have say in who is calling the shots?

Sometimes it goes poorly. Jerry Sloan comes immediately to mind, so does Rick Adelman. But not all coaches who get fired because of players are unjustly ousted. Coaches can lose a lockerroom, no matter how good they are. Stan Van Gundy comes to mind, so does Flip Saunders, Don Nelson, Avery Johnson (Dallas version) and Vinnie Del Negro. If a coach can't command the respect of his lockerroom without the aid of a contractually binding agreement between player and team, why should he keep his job?

And if a coach has the support of his team, and if guys agreed to stay on because they liked the coach, why shouldn't the players feel betrayed if the coach is thrown under the bus?