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Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2012, 01:56:44 PM »

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the incentive is evans walks for nothing...the incentive is salmons is their oldest and highest paid player...the real point is have the kings given up on cousins...what do the kings know about cousins that the rest of the league doesn't know...that is the risk/reward part of the equation for both the c's and kings...evans and salmons are no-brainers in this equation

and you think they can't trade Evans or Cousins to any of the other 28 teams in the league for good value? These are not middle age or old players on big contracts, these are cheap, very young and talented players we're talking about. The kings can even keep both if they want to and won't really lose anything.

well...if you think it is so easy...where are your proposals?

I say get a big man like Dalembert for very cheap and roll with the team we have. Give Sullinger more playing time too.

Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2012, 01:57:22 PM »

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the incentive is evans walks for nothing...the incentive is salmons is their oldest and highest paid player...the real point is have the kings given up on cousins...what do the kings know about cousins that the rest of the league doesn't know...that is the risk/reward part of the equation for both the c's and kings...evans and salmons are no-brainers in this equation

and you think they can't trade Evans or Cousins to any of the other 28 teams in the league for good value? These are not middle age or old players on big contracts, these are cheap, very young and talented players we're talking about. The kings can even keep both if they want to and won't really lose anything.

Exactly.  The Kings can get way better packages that what the Celtics are giving up here.

well...if you think it is so easy...where are your proposals?

Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2012, 01:59:39 PM »

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Also, if you really want to trade for Cousins, it would cost us Bradley, Sullinger, Melo, and picks just for Cousins. No Tyreke Evans free bonus for taking Salmons or something. No giving the Kings our underachieving long term contracts like Lee and Green.

Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2012, 02:00:03 PM »

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the incentive is evans walks for nothing...the incentive is salmons is their oldest and highest paid player...the real point is have the kings given up on cousins...what do the kings know about cousins that the rest of the league doesn't know...that is the risk/reward part of the equation for both the c's and kings...evans and salmons are no-brainers in this equation

and you think they can't trade Evans or Cousins to any of the other 28 teams in the league for good value? These are not middle age or old players on big contracts, these are cheap, very young and talented players we're talking about. The kings can even keep both if they want to and won't really lose anything.

Exactly.  The Kings can get way better packages that what the Celtics are giving up here.

well...if you think it is so easy...where are your proposals?

Is it my job to make proposals now?

If you can't deal with the criticism of your proposal by people on here, I don't know what to tell you. Calling others out isn't going to help your case though.


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Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2012, 02:01:11 PM »

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the kings are going to lose evans for nothing...they are going to trade him...the maloofs are losing money hand over fist right now

Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2012, 02:02:46 PM »

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the incentive is evans walks for nothing...the incentive is salmons is their oldest and highest paid player...the real point is have the kings given up on cousins...what do the kings know about cousins that the rest of the league doesn't know...that is the risk/reward part of the equation for both the c's and kings...evans and salmons are no-brainers in this equation

and you think they can't trade Evans or Cousins to any of the other 28 teams in the league for good value? These are not middle age or old players on big contracts, these are cheap, very young and talented players we're talking about. The kings can even keep both if they want to and won't really lose anything.

Exactly.  The Kings can get way better packages that what the Celtics are giving up here.

well...if you think it is so easy...where are your proposals?

Is it my job to make proposals now?

If you can't deal with the criticism of your proposal by people on here, I don't know what to tell you. Calling others out isn't going to help your case though.

wow...asking you to make a proposal is calling you out...a little sensitive, huh?

Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2012, 02:05:06 PM »

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the kings are going to lose evans for nothing...they are going to trade him...the maloofs are losing money hand over fist right now

many things in this short post make no sense

Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2012, 02:05:19 PM »

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the incentive is evans walks for nothing...the incentive is salmons is their oldest and highest paid player...the real point is have the kings given up on cousins...what do the kings know about cousins that the rest of the league doesn't know...that is the risk/reward part of the equation for both the c's and kings...evans and salmons are no-brainers in this equation

and you think they can't trade Evans or Cousins to any of the other 28 teams in the league for good value? These are not middle age or old players on big contracts, these are cheap, very young and talented players we're talking about. The kings can even keep both if they want to and won't really lose anything.

Exactly.  The Kings can get way better packages that what the Celtics are giving up here.

well...if you think it is so easy...where are your proposals?

Is it my job to make proposals now?

If you can't deal with the criticism of your proposal by people on here, I don't know what to tell you. Calling others out isn't going to help your case though.

wow...asking you to make a proposal is calling you out...a little sensitive, huh?

Ha...that's funny given the circumstances.


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Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2012, 02:09:45 PM »

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the kings are going to lose evans for nothing...they are going to trade him...the maloofs are losing money hand over fist right now

many things in this short post make no sense

ok...see the links below...that took me about 15 seconds to find

These are trying times for Maloof

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2011/6/15/2225677/sacramento-kings-maloofs-palms-casino

Maloofs Now Own Just 2 Percent Of Palms And No Longer Run Resort, Putting Kings' Finances In Question
The Maloofs, who own the Sacramento Kings, have lost majority control of the Palms Casino and Hotel in Las Vegas amid rampant reports of the family's financial demise.

http://www.lvrj.com/news/these-are-trying-times-for-maloof-122412629.html

so...let's look at evans...do you really think the kings are going to re-sign evans...i say it will take $40M to $45M to re-sign evans..what do you think it will take for the kings to re-sign evans and will they do it?

Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #39 on: December 30, 2012, 02:11:20 PM »

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Not that his isn't a good idea, but this exact trade is on the forum about 3-4 different times.

And the general consensus is that the Kings wouldn't trade their 2 best players for anything short of Rondo.

Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #40 on: December 30, 2012, 02:16:02 PM »

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Regardless of whether or not the Maloofs are broke they still need to meet payroll and the salary floor per the CBA.

Sacramento probably will lose Evans, but a S&T during the off-season is possible.  As such, they will bide their time until the right deal arises.  If nothing materializes they may just keep him, while still trading Cousins.

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« Reply #41 on: December 30, 2012, 02:18:00 PM »

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Honestly, I think the NBA might step in soon, and take over similar to what happened in New Orleans.

If ownership is losing money AND broke, they are not viable and a detriment to the league.

Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #42 on: December 30, 2012, 02:19:33 PM »

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Regardless of whether or not the Maloofs are broke they still need to meet payroll and the salary floor per the CBA.

Sacramento probably will lose Evans, but a S&T during the off-season is possible.  As such, they will bide their time until the right deal arises.  If nothing materializes they may just keep him, while still trading Cousins.

i was thinking about the S&T also...but...i think S&T is more difficult route...

i always remember salmons hurting us...i think he would help us...the kings of course would look at it as a salary dump...

the salaries match...so there is no issue with CBA, salary floor, etc...so...that point is moot...

Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #43 on: December 30, 2012, 02:26:19 PM »

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My point is, if Sacramento is forced to either resign Evans or get nothing in return for him, they probably re-sign him.  They would need to spend a certain amount of the money that would come off the books by letting him go.  They won't be able to get a player through FA who is comparable in talent.  Why spend money on crappier players?

Sacramento won't take a bad deal just to trade him.

Cousins and Evans situations are not tied together.

Re: Blockbuster Trade
« Reply #44 on: December 30, 2012, 02:30:24 PM »

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the "X" factor may be fegan...if i'm fegan and looking for a big pay day for both him and cousins on the next contract...then...i want to place him somewhere where he has the best chance to succeed...the worst thing that could happen for fegan and cousins is to be stuck somewhere where the team does not succeed...and...more to the point...cousins needs to be in a situation where he will grow and learn how to be a professional from doc, garnett, pierce, terry, rondo...i can already see the raised eyebrows with the inclusion of rondo...can you see cousins in kg's face...who do you think will back down first...cousins needs to be in an environement where he will grow...and...i think fegan knows this