lightspeed5
Bill Walton 
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« on: December 28, 2012, 03:21:06 AM » |
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Anyone notice a huge void with no defensive coach? When Lawrence Frank (and thibs before that) was here, he was yelling at everyone from the sideline to get into position and it worked.
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Celtics4ever
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2012, 05:56:10 AM » |
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It might help but father time beats everyone eventually regardless of an extra coach.
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snowball
Brandon Bass
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2012, 09:36:24 AM » |
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Kendrick Perkins or Tony Allen wouldn't hurt either.
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CoachBo
NCE Bailey Howell
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2012, 09:47:36 AM » |
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Sam Presti would beg to differ with you on that one.
It is true, however, as the original poster points out that we seem to lack any coherent idea of what we're trying to do defensively.
We don't appear to have replaced Frank. Or Thibs, for that matter.
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2012, 09:49:01 AM » |
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It is true, however, as the original poster points out that we seem to lack any coherent idea of what we're trying to do defensively. Which is mind-boggling, because the frontcourt personnel and the coaching staff is virtually identical to what we had last year, and Garnett doesn't look like he's lost a step defensively. |
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2012, 09:55:03 AM » |
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Do people not realize how fortunate and unique we were to have assistant coaches of that caliber? They don't exactly grow on trees, there's luck involved.
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Chris
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2012, 01:00:29 PM » |
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We have the same defensive coach as we had last year. I forget his name, but he has been with the team for years and was promoted to the defensive coach when Frank left...and they seemed fine defensively (at least in the second half) last year.
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2012, 01:42:21 PM » |
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It might help but father time beats everyone eventually regardless of an extra coach.
Ultimately, players are what really matter. |
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AB_Celtic
Paul Pierce
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2012, 01:46:16 PM » |
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It is true, however, as the original poster points out that we seem to lack any coherent idea of what we're trying to do defensively. Which is mind-boggling, because the frontcourt personnel and the coaching staff is virtually identical to what we had last year, and Garnett doesn't look like he's lost a step defensively.
Defensively: Stiemsma > Collins/Wilcox*** Pietrus > Green Bradley > Lee Dooling > Terry *** This is the big one. We still had a guy protecting the rim when KG left the floor. Steamer did a ton for this team. |
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lightspeed5
Bill Walton
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2012, 07:11:24 PM » |
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I agree with the fact that steamroller was huge for us. Not only did he sometimes put pressure on perimeter shooters with his sprint block, but he controlled the paint pretty good.
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CoachBo
NCE Bailey Howell
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2012, 07:56:46 PM » |
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I don't.
Steamer was a non-factor on both ends of the court, and he is not missed.
What he did best was foul. A lot.
Just another conflated Celtic with limited skills on this blog, joining a lengthy list.
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2012, 08:04:09 PM » |
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It is true, however, as the original poster points out that we seem to lack any coherent idea of what we're trying to do defensively. Which is mind-boggling, because the frontcourt personnel and the coaching staff is virtually identical to what we had last year, and Garnett doesn't look like he's lost a step defensively.
Defensively:
Stiemsma > Collins/Wilcox***
Pietrus > Green
Bradley > Lee
Dooling > Terry
*** This is the big one. We still had a guy protecting the rim when KG left the floor. Steamer did a ton for this team.
I disagree with these assessments, it's more like this: Defensively: Collins > Stiemsma (Collins is a solid post defender, Steimsma was a highly overrated shot blocker who sucked as a low post defender Green> Pietrus (Pietrus was hobbled, a shell of his former self) Bradley > Lee Ray = Terry (you can't ignore Ray, our starter through the playoffs) |
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lightspeed5
Bill Walton
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2012, 09:47:31 PM » |
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I don't.
Steamer was a non-factor on both ends of the court, and he is not missed.
What he did best was foul. A lot.
Just another conflated Celtic with limited skills on this blog, joining a lengthy list.
his fouling was due to rookie calls. same thing is happening to sully. its bs. |
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