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Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« on: December 27, 2012, 11:57:55 AM »

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The 2013 draft appears to have decent middle round value and depending on who comes out a ton of projects.

If the project big men over take the top ten then a team like the Cs could see a solid college player fall to them in the middle of the first.

Early list of player to watch.

these are guy projected to go in the middle first who might make great future celtics.

Andre Robinson   athletic SF who averages 11pts 11rb per, hustle guy who could be great with rondo in open court

Doug McDermott   Wally Szerbiack like SF great shooter

Jeff Withey      Elite shot blocking Center

Kentavious Caldwell-Pope  2 guard with solid size and range seems to have a nice skill set to develop as the 3rd guard with rondo and AB




Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2012, 12:17:53 PM »

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Give me Caldwell-Pope. Solid length for a 2 at 6'6". Good shooter with a good form and quick release. Most of all, the dkid can and will flat out defend Guards (just Guards, he has very short wingspan which might be difficult against Small Forwards). Very intense defender, very good in bothering the passing lanes.

Imagine having him and AB as our 2 guard rotation, both can shutdown opposing Guards. Yeah, give me some of that. Or Steven Adams of Pitt, or Alex Len of Maryland.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2012, 12:56:45 PM »

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In terms of big men, Gorgui Dieng of Louisville and Isaiah Austin of Baylor are two guys that can really help us in the future.

Both are VERY skinny.  Dieng is a great shot blocker and has a nice jumper, so he's like Fab Melo, except he's ready to play right now.

Austin has a great offensive game, whether its in the post or his jumper.  I don't know about his defense, but he has long arms, so that helps.

Dieng could play PF, but he and Austin are probably better off as centers.

Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2012, 01:07:27 PM »

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In terms of big men, Gorgui Dieng of Louisville and Isaiah Austin of Baylor are two guys that can really help us in the future.



I said it already. Alex Len and Steven Adams. Austin will be top 10 i believe. Len and Adams might be reachable. I love Dieng's game though, there's a bit of Festus Ezeli in him. He could at worse a very solid backup 4 or 5.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2012, 01:19:59 PM »

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a bit early for speculation here but personally I'm hoping the C's get their act together enough this season where they end up with a pick in the low 20's.  not because I think there's great talent at that pick but because I want this team to get it's act together this season.

however, looking into my crystal ball, I think the pick will be traded as a part of a mid-season deal.

Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2012, 01:50:59 PM »

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Len is already being talked about as a top 5 pick.

Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2012, 01:59:19 PM »

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Len is already being talked about as a top 5 pick.

Oh, then I guess I was wrong. LOL

I really like Caldwell-Pope for us. He might drop in that 18-20 range, which I assume we will be. Steven Adams, I really like how this kid plays too, proto big man, solid footwork. Altough, he might be headed to the lottery too.
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2012, 02:04:05 PM »

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I think with the next three drafts we need to look for an ELITE scorer.  Paul and KG aren't going to last forever, and I don't have faith that Rondo is going to be a 20 ppg player.  Bradley, Green, and Sully (who are potentially our future core with Rajon) are more supporting scores than top scorers.

Finding a pure scorer (whether its a big, wing, or guard) is going to be a necessity.

Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #8 on: December 27, 2012, 02:15:55 PM »

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I think with the next three drafts we need to look for an ELITE scorer.  Paul and KG aren't going to last forever, and I don't have faith that Rondo is going to be a 20 ppg player.  Bradley, Green, and Sully (who are potentially our future core with Rajon) are more supporting scores than top scorers.

Finding a pure scorer (whether its a big, wing, or guard) is going to be a necessity

I agree. If the future is Rondo, AB, Green , and Sully then two key roles and one minor role that need to be filled. (Melo needs to show me something other than D-league still_

1. An isolation scoring SG who is 6'4+. Last draft i liked Ross for this role. I imagine a player who plays in a Ginobli like role. A 3 man rotation of Rondo, AB, and scoring 2 with size could take up all 96 guard minutes.

2. A Lengthy athletic 4/5 or 5. Hopefully Melo fills this role. If he does then the player can be more 4 than 5 if not than we really need a 5. If melo pans out as a solid starting 5. Then I would hope for a Ekpe Udoh type as our 3rd big.

3. The minor role 8th man. I would ideally like to see a 3pt specialist SF in this role.   

ideal if everyone develops as we (as Cs fans) hope.

Rondo 15 pt 5 rb 10 ass
AB    15 pt
Green 15 pt 6 rb
Sully 18 pt 9 rb
Melo  10 pt 8 rb 2.5 blk
SG    15 pt
4/5    5 pt 5 rb
SF     5 pt 3pt shooter

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Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2012, 02:36:51 PM »

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I think with the next three drafts we need to look for an ELITE scorer.  Paul and KG aren't going to last forever, and I don't have faith that Rondo is going to be a 20 ppg player.  Bradley, Green, and Sully (who are potentially our future core with Rajon) are more supporting scores than top scorers.

Finding a pure scorer (whether its a big, wing, or guard) is going to be a necessity

I agree. If the future is Rondo, AB, Green , and Sully then two key roles and one minor role that need to be filled. (Melo needs to show me something other than D-league still_

1. An isolation scoring SG who is 6'4+. Last draft i liked Ross for this role. I imagine a player who plays in a Ginobli like role. A 3 man rotation of Rondo, AB, and scoring 2 with size could take up all 96 guard minutes.

2. A Lengthy athletic 4/5 or 5. Hopefully Melo fills this role. If he does then the player can be more 4 than 5 if not than we really need a 5. If melo pans out as a solid starting 5. Then I would hope for a Ekpe Udoh type as our 3rd big.

3. The minor role 8th man. I would ideally like to see a 3pt specialist SF in this role.   

ideal if everyone develops as we (as Cs fans) hope.

Rondo 15 pt 5 rb 10 ass
AB    15 pt
Green 15 pt 6 rb
Sully 18 pt 9 rb
Melo  10 pt 8 rb 2.5 blk
SG    15 pt
4/5    5 pt 5 rb
SF     5 pt 3pt shooter

This might be a risky pick, we may not be able to land him anyway but if we need a scorer, the dude named LeBryan Nash is the one we should be looking for.

He can get to the basket, and has improved his mid range game. Can create shots for himself. Problem is, he takes a nap on defense sometimes.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2012, 03:18:03 PM »

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I think Willie Cauley Stein would be an excellent investment as a young big man in the middle of the first to around the 20th pick. As for scoring punch, if James MacAdoo falls, do everything you can to trade up and get him. Same holds true for Michael Carter Williams of Alex Goodwin.
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Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2012, 03:26:23 PM »

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I think Willie Cauley Stein would be an excellent investment as a young big man in the middle of the first to around the 20th pick. As for scoring punch, if James MacAdoo falls, do everything you can to trade up and get him. Same holds true for Michael Carter Williams of Alex Goodwin

I also like Cauley Stein as a prospect. He is a guy who I wxpect to jump into top 10 during the draft process. He and Austin from baylor are the types of guys who will go early and push more sure things to the 20s.

Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2012, 04:25:54 PM »

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I think with the next three drafts we need to look for an ELITE scorer.  Paul and KG aren't going to last forever, and I don't have faith that Rondo is going to be a 20 ppg player.  Bradley, Green, and Sully (who are potentially our future core with Rajon) are more supporting scores than top scorers.

Finding a pure scorer (whether its a big, wing, or guard) is going to be a necessity

I agree. If the future is Rondo, AB, Green , and Sully then two key roles and one minor role that need to be filled. (Melo needs to show me something other than D-league still_

1. An isolation scoring SG who is 6'4+. Last draft i liked Ross for this role. I imagine a player who plays in a Ginobli like role. A 3 man rotation of Rondo, AB, and scoring 2 with size could take up all 96 guard minutes.

2. A Lengthy athletic 4/5 or 5. Hopefully Melo fills this role. If he does then the player can be more 4 than 5 if not than we really need a 5. If melo pans out as a solid starting 5. Then I would hope for a Ekpe Udoh type as our 3rd big.

3. The minor role 8th man. I would ideally like to see a 3pt specialist SF in this role.   

ideal if everyone develops as we (as Cs fans) hope.

Rondo 15 pt 5 rb 10 ass
AB    15 pt
Green 15 pt 6 rb
Sully 18 pt 9 rb
Melo  10 pt 8 rb 2.5 blk
SG    15 pt
4/5    5 pt 5 rb
SF     5 pt 3pt shooter

This might be a risky pick, we may not be able to land him anyway but if we need a scorer, the dude named LeBryan Nash is the one we should be looking for.

He can get to the basket, and has improved his mid range game. Can create shots for himself. Problem is, he takes a nap on defense sometimes.

Don't want Nash.  Like you said, he doesn't play D, but he looks like the next Terrence Williams.

Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2012, 11:15:38 AM »

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If we can trade off some pieces and start tanking now, we can make a run at a top pick.

Re: Looking ahead to 2013 draft
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2012, 11:24:01 AM »

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I think with the next three drafts we need to look for an ELITE scorer.  Paul and KG aren't going to last forever, and I don't have faith that Rondo is going to be a 20 ppg player.  Bradley, Green, and Sully (who are potentially our future core with Rajon) are more supporting scores than top scorers.

Finding a pure scorer (whether its a big, wing, or guard) is going to be a necessity.
If you want a pure scorer, gotta go with Trey Burke from Michigan.  Kid gets BUCKETS.  Only 6-0' tall, but he can score like Rondo can pass.

 

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