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Re: Jeff Green and Jarod Sullinger
« Reply #15 on: December 25, 2012, 09:45:48 PM »

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im not so sure we even really need a trade to become better..its all about "getting it" defensively...today they looked solid on the defensive end...this team went on a 78% winning streak to end the season with KG at the 5 and Bass at the 4

Sully is getting better defensively every game..lets see what we look like with our 2nd best defender in Avery bradley back.

Yeah um, i want to be put in the best possible position to win the championship THIS YEAR. I don't trust LEE or BASS or even SULLY to be huge factors come playoffs. Id rather trade for a borderline allstar..........

and those borderline allstars are just sitting around for the taking? likely you are getting someone like Gortat..who while a solid player is NOT a borderline allstar.

I havent seen anything that would suggest to me that Sullinger isnt someone who can help us win NOW...hes only played his 27th NBA game and is already an NBA rotation big

Re: Jeff Green and Jarod Sullinger
« Reply #16 on: December 25, 2012, 09:50:09 PM »

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im not so sure we even really need a trade to become better..its all about "getting it" defensively...today they looked solid on the defensive end...this team went on a 78% winning streak to end the season with KG at the 5 and Bass at the 4

Sully is getting better defensively every game..lets see what we look like with our 2nd best defender in Avery bradley back.

Yeah um, i want to be put in the best possible position to win the championship THIS YEAR. I don't trust LEE or BASS or even SULLY to be huge factors come playoffs. Id rather trade for a borderline allstar..........

and those borderline allstars are just sitting around for the taking? likely you are getting someone like Gortat..who while a solid player is NOT a borderline allstar.

I havent seen anything that would suggest to me that Sullinger isnt someone who can help us win NOW...hes only played his 27th NBA game and is already an NBA rotation big

I agree. I wouldn't trade Sullinger for someone like Gortat. If that is the best player we can trade for, I would rather trade for someone that will cost us a lot less, like Dalembert.

I would only trade Sullinger if we get someone like Josh Smith, but at the moment the Hawks have a much better record than us.

Re: Jeff Green and Jarod Sullinger
« Reply #17 on: December 25, 2012, 09:50:47 PM »

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I will say watching Jeff Green play to tonight was exhilarating and jnfuriating. Watching Sully play was just rewarding. I have zero reservations about trading Green if putting him in the package nets a guy like Gortat or J-Smoove.

Sullinger I hate to trade unless someone puts as much value on him as I do.

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Re: Jeff Green and Jarod Sullinger
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2012, 09:51:41 PM »

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As much as I want to see a trade for a young star to play with Rondo for the foreseeable future, I think it's prudent for us to wait a while, for several reasons.

1. We need to see how effective Bradley is... who knows, he could solve a lot of our problems.
2. We need to continue to let the team gel - not necessarily completely gel, because that could take too long and we are going for a title, but gel a little more than they have. I think if we do this, some of our players will begin to play better, and their trade stock will go up.

Right now, we have three players whose trade stock is extremely low (Bass, Lee, Bradley), and a couple whose stock is on the rise (Green, Sullinger). Let the rising stock keep rising and hope that the low stock turns around.
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Re: Jeff Green and Jarod Sullinger
« Reply #19 on: December 25, 2012, 09:53:24 PM »

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The expendable players imo are Bass and Lee. But as you said, their stock is low now. If someone wants to offer good return I would trade them, otherwise keep them and hope their value rises.

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« Reply #20 on: December 25, 2012, 09:55:21 PM »

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Because they can be, like Bill Simmons said, our biggest trade chips.

I understand that you are looking towards the future, but we have a 2 year window to win a championship. Those two, while being good, MAY not be able to put us on the top, but they MAY be able to land us a guy that could.

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Re: Jeff Green and Jarod Sullinger
« Reply #21 on: December 25, 2012, 09:59:55 PM »

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I will say watching Jeff Green play to tonight was exhilarating and jnfuriating. Watching Sully play was just rewarding. I have zero reservations about trading Green if putting him in the package nets a guy like Gortat or J-Smoove.

Sullinger I hate to trade unless someone puts as much value on him as I do.

You didnt think green had a good game? I thought he had a pretty solid performance...15points off the bench..what more could you want?

Re: Jeff Green and Jarod Sullinger
« Reply #22 on: December 25, 2012, 10:02:48 PM »

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Sully still has those games where he looks completely lost on the defensive end. I like sully but if we take this team as constructed into the playoffs, *Collins at center please no* i don't think we have a legit chance to win banner 18. We have an outside chance but not realistic. I'm pretty confident danny will pull the trigger tho.

Re: Jeff Green and Jarod Sullinger
« Reply #23 on: December 25, 2012, 10:04:28 PM »

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As much as I want to see a trade for a young star to play with Rondo for the foreseeable future, I think it's prudent for us to wait a while, for several reasons.

1. We need to see how effective Bradley is... who knows, he could solve a lot of our problems.
2. We need to continue to let the team gel - not necessarily completely gel, because that could take too long and we are going for a title, but gel a little more than they have. I think if we do this, some of our players will begin to play better, and their trade stock will go up.

Right now, we have three players whose trade stock is extremely low (Bass, Lee, Bradley), and a couple whose stock is on the rise (Green, Sullinger). Let the rising stock keep rising and hope that the low stock turns around.

I agree with all this. Our best trade chip isn't Sully or Green, it's Bradley. But he's only our best trade chip once he starts beasting on opponents.

Trading a guy like Cousins or Al Jeff is a lot more palatable when you have the opportunity to acquire a starting potentially game changing guard in the package.

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Re: Jeff Green and Jarod Sullinger
« Reply #24 on: December 25, 2012, 10:06:03 PM »

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Sully still has those games where he looks completely lost on the defensive end. I like sully but if we take this team as constructed into the playoffs, *Collins at center please no* i don't think we have a legit chance to win banner 18. We have an outside chance but not realistic. I'm pretty confident danny will pull the trigger tho.

I don't see us getting an all-star big man for a package of Sullinger and Lee or Bass. It's not happening. I wouldn't trade them for a Gortat type of player when we can get someone like Dalembert for much less.

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« Reply #25 on: December 25, 2012, 10:08:21 PM »

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As much as I want to see a trade for a young star to play with Rondo for the foreseeable future, I think it's prudent for us to wait a while, for several reasons.

1. We need to see how effective Bradley is... who knows, he could solve a lot of our problems.
2. We need to continue to let the team gel - not necessarily completely gel, because that could take too long and we are going for a title, but gel a little more than they have. I think if we do this, some of our players will begin to play better, and their trade stock will go up.

Right now, we have three players whose trade stock is extremely low (Bass, Lee, Bradley), and a couple whose stock is on the rise (Green, Sullinger). Let the rising stock keep rising and hope that the low stock turns around.

I agree with all this. Our best trade chip isn't Sully or Green, it's Bradley. But he's only our best trade chip once he starts beasting on opponents.

Trading a guy like Cousins or Al Jeff is a lot more palatable when you have the opportunity to acquire a starting potentially game changing guard in the package.

All tho i think teams would want bradley we have enough pieces to offer to keep him. You won't convince me we can't get a quality big for green, lee, bass/sully barbosa, melo. Guys like that alot of teams could use.

Re: Jeff Green and Jarod Sullinger
« Reply #26 on: December 25, 2012, 10:10:01 PM »

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As much as I want to see a trade for a young star to play with Rondo for the foreseeable future, I think it's prudent for us to wait a while, for several reasons.

1. We need to see how effective Bradley is... who knows, he could solve a lot of our problems.
2. We need to continue to let the team gel - not necessarily completely gel, because that could take too long and we are going for a title, but gel a little more than they have. I think if we do this, some of our players will begin to play better, and their trade stock will go up.

Right now, we have three players whose trade stock is extremely low (Bass, Lee, Bradley), and a couple whose stock is on the rise (Green, Sullinger). Let the rising stock keep rising and hope that the low stock turns around.

I agree with all this. Our best trade chip isn't Sully or Green, it's Bradley. But he's only our best trade chip once he starts beasting on opponents.

Trading a guy like Cousins or Al Jeff is a lot more palatable when you have the opportunity to acquire a starting potentially game changing guard in the package.

If Bradley solves alot of our problems defensively,and is a starting-game changing guard...WHY on earth would you want to trade him?

its like building one hole(perimiter defense) to fill another(rebounding)

our bigs havent been the problem. its our guard's defense

Re: Jeff Green and Jarod Sullinger
« Reply #27 on: December 25, 2012, 10:11:56 PM »

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Sully still has those games where he looks completely lost on the defensive end. I like sully but if we take this team as constructed into the playoffs, *Collins at center please no* i don't think we have a legit chance to win banner 18. We have an outside chance but not realistic. I'm pretty confident danny will pull the trigger tho.


I don't see us getting an all-star big man for a package of Sullinger and Lee or Bass. It's not happening. I wouldn't trade them for a Gortat type of player when we can get someone like Dalembert for much less.

Id be all for that too. What I'm not for however is going into the playoffs with collins as our starting center. Sorry, but you won't convince me that is the road we should go down.

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« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2012, 10:13:18 PM »

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Re: Jeff Green and Jarod Sullinger
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2012, 10:14:21 PM »

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As much as I want to see a trade for a young star to play with Rondo for the foreseeable future, I think it's prudent for us to wait a while, for several reasons.

1. We need to see how effective Bradley is... who knows, he could solve a lot of our problems.
2. We need to continue to let the team gel - not necessarily completely gel, because that could take too long and we are going for a title, but gel a little more than they have. I think if we do this, some of our players will begin to play better, and their trade stock will go up.

Right now, we have three players whose trade stock is extremely low (Bass, Lee, Bradley), and a couple whose stock is on the rise (Green, Sullinger). Let the rising stock keep rising and hope that the low stock turns around.

I agree with all this. Our best trade chip isn't Sully or Green, it's Bradley. But he's only our best trade chip once he starts beasting on opponents.

Trading a guy like Cousins or Al Jeff is a lot more palatable when you have the opportunity to acquire a starting potentially game changing guard in the package.

If Bradley solves alot of our problems defensively,and is a starting-game changing guard...WHY on earth would you want to trade him?

its like building one hole(perimiter defense) to fill another(rebounding)

our bigs havent been the problem. its our guard's defense

Wholeheartedly disagree. Outside of KG, we have the worst set of bigs in the NBA.

That said, Bradley can still help, because he pesters players in transition and prevents them from going straight to the rim, saving our bigs' energy.
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