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« Reply #135 on: December 26, 2012, 11:23:51 PM » |
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Tough call for the Kings. Cousins new agent will be pushing hard for a trade. They, along with the rest of the NBA, think the Kings ownership/management is dysfunctional and they want him out of there. The problem for the Kings is that Cousins is their best player, but given his frequent issues with coaches/teammates, teams aren't willing to give equal value back in return. In addition, I'm hearing that there's a split between the GM and ownership on what they want in return. Do they get back established players and try to win now or do they want more young prospects/draft picks? In other words, it's a giant mess .. http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/46552
Fegan was behind the Dwightmare. He knows how to manipulate teams with rumors through the media, etc.
Fegan also has an adversarial relationship with Kings executive Geoff Petrie. So this is all looking great for Kings fans. And by great I mean terrible.
The Kings are facing a devastating situation developing. They're reaching the point where they can't justify keeping Cousins with his attitude. But they have no leverage now and won't be able to get a package of value back in return. And this isn't just a good player, it's a potential All-Star. They can't keep him, they can't trade him and get good return. They can only lose. http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/21455520/demarcus-cousins-will-not-play-vs-portland-as-a-bad-situation-stays-ugly
I do think the Celtics are one of the teams that would be willing to pull the trigger on a Cousins deal. Danny Ainge has never been afraid of players like Cousins. They do have assets too: Jared Sullinger, Fab Melo, Avery Bradley are all players the Kings would have interest in. However, if the Kings do that deal, they take another step backward. Not sure if there's room anymore for the Kings to keep going backward. Pistons, Mavs and Heat are other teams with a lot of interest. I think a package of AB, Melo, Sully, and future picks AND taking back a bad contract like Salmons could make sense for the Kings. I bet Bradley has more value around the NBA then Tyreke does.
http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/chat/_/id/46552
HOLY COW this thing might actually happen hahaha Both Tyreke and Cousins is great value.
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« Reply #136 on: December 26, 2012, 11:24:42 PM » |
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Cousins makes $3,880,800. That is a relatively cheap contract but actually makes it hard to match up salaries while giving them back something they are actually going to want. So why don't we shoot the moon and try to get T. Evans too (about $5.2), accepting that we would need to take something else back that they want to get rid of (Outlaw at $3M). So would you do:
Green + Bradley (about $10M total)
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Cousins + Evans + Outlaw (about $11M total)
What more would you be willing to throw in to make it work if we needed to sweeten?
I want no part of Salmons so if they want to dump him (which they probably do) I walk.
Lee, Green, AB, Sully, Melo and picks w/ cash for Salmons, Evans, and Cousins Then consider signing Delonte West on a vet. min. deal.
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« Reply #137 on: December 26, 2012, 11:28:05 PM » |
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Did that report say the Heat are interested? DA make this happen NOW. I don't want Cousins playing for the Heat. By gawd that beyond scary.
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« Reply #138 on: December 26, 2012, 11:31:22 PM » |
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Just to throw more gasoline on the fire, Cousin's new agent Dan Fegan, is also the agent of Courtney Lee, Jason Terry, and Leandro Barbosa.
...and yes, I am baiting here.
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« Reply #139 on: December 26, 2012, 11:43:11 PM » |
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Cousins makes $3,880,800. That is a relatively cheap contract but actually makes it hard to match up salaries while giving them back something they are actually going to want. So why don't we shoot the moon and try to get T. Evans too (about $5.2), accepting that we would need to take something else back that they want to get rid of (Outlaw at $3M). So would you do:
Green + Bradley (about $10M total)
for
Cousins + Evans + Outlaw (about $11M total)
What more would you be willing to throw in to make it work if we needed to sweeten?
I want no part of Salmons so if they want to dump him (which they probably do) I walk.
Lee, Green, AB, Sully, Melo and picks w/ cash
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Salmons, Evans, and Cousins
Then consider signing Delonte West on a vet. min. deal.
For me, that is too much and I don't want Salmons. You would be trading 3 current rotation players, a 4th that will be, and a prospect that just had 14 blocks in the D league. Too much turnover for me. I walk away from that deal.
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Kane3387
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« Reply #140 on: December 26, 2012, 11:45:40 PM » |
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The Kings are getting killed by Portland. They're a mess and look awful. All they do is get beat on Defense and blame one another when it happens. A lot of finger pointing out there.
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« Reply #141 on: December 26, 2012, 11:47:19 PM » |
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The Kings are getting killed by Portland. They're a mess and look awful. All they do is get beat on Defense and blame one another when it happens. A lot of finger pointing out there.
I wonder who is there longer, Cousins, Petrie, or Smart? Maybe they could all be sent out together.
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« Reply #142 on: December 26, 2012, 11:52:34 PM » |
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The Kings are getting killed by Portland. They're a mess and look awful. All they do is get beat on Defense and blame one another when it happens. A lot of finger pointing out there.
I wonder who is there longer, Cousins, Petrie, or Smart? Maybe they could all be sent out together.
As long as Cousins is trekking up to Boston I don't care.
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« Reply #143 on: December 26, 2012, 11:59:40 PM » |
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Kings owners suck,GM has put no mature players on the squad the coaching is suspect at best, too many young players , no locker room leaders, the whole franchise is a lost ball in high weeds.
It is a disfuctional situation for young hard-headed players to mature in.
Hope he can find the right place.
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« Reply #144 on: December 27, 2012, 12:03:49 AM » |
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Did that report say the Heat are interested? DA make this happen NOW. I don't want Cousins playing for the Heat. By gawd that beyond scary.
What are they gonna give the Kings? Chris Bosh? Wade? lol
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« Reply #145 on: December 27, 2012, 12:07:27 AM » |
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Kings owners suck,GM has put no mature players on the squad the coaching is suspect at best, too many young players , no locker room leaders, the whole franchise is a lost ball in high weeds.
It is a disfuctional situation for young hard-headed players to mature in.
Hope he can find the right place.
The thing is, they have the same ownership and GM as they had when they were perennial contenders. While there may be some extenuating circumstances (such as the Maloofs business tanking), this team should still be a reminder to anyone who wants the C's to "get bad to get good". A lot of times, this is what happens when you play the lottery. It starts a cycle that is hard to stop.
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« Reply #146 on: December 27, 2012, 12:13:48 AM » |
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Did that report say the Heat are interested? DA make this happen NOW. I don't want Cousins playing for the Heat. By gawd that beyond scary.
What are they gonna give the Kings?
Chris Bosh?
Wade?
lol
They can move any of those cheap veteran guys plus Chalmers.
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« Reply #147 on: December 27, 2012, 12:30:16 AM » |
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Kings owners suck,GM has put no mature players on the squad the coaching is suspect at best, too many young players , no locker room leaders, the whole franchise is a lost ball in high weeds.
It is a disfuctional situation for young hard-headed players to mature in.
Hope he can find the right place.
Truth. Completely derailed Evans career, on the way to ruining cousins. The kings have done less with more than any other franchise.
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« Reply #148 on: December 27, 2012, 12:36:00 AM » |
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Did that report say the Heat are interested? DA make this happen NOW. I don't want Cousins playing for the Heat. By gawd that beyond scary.
What are they gonna give the Kings?
Chris Bosh?
Wade?
lol
They can move any of those cheap veteran guys plus Chalmers.
So Chalmers for Cousins basically?...
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« Reply #149 on: December 27, 2012, 12:38:15 AM » |
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Did that report say the Heat are interested? DA make this happen NOW. I don't want Cousins playing for the Heat. By gawd that beyond scary.
What are they gonna give the Kings?
Chris Bosh?
Wade?
lol
They can move any of those cheap veteran guys plus Chalmers.
So Chalmers for Cousins basically?...
We've seen worse in this league.
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