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Minny and Boston Trade. Kevin Love to Boston
« on: December 23, 2012, 01:08:54 AM »

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So I've seen this on another board, someone who claims to have a small amount of 'insider knowledge'.

They weren't claiming that this was true, but it was suggested to them by their acquaintance (someone with very strong NBA front office connections.)
Again, I'm not suggesting anything that is suggested is true or possible, but this poster is credited by other veteran posters with being legitimate and definitely not a troll.
Original source/topic is here:
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http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=1220375&start=120

Background reasoning:
*Minny front office and Kahn are p---ed with Love. Wouldn't sign max extension and that's made Kahn furious. He's also mouthed off to Adrian Woj recently about playing for a crappy organization.
*Adelmen supposedly loves Jeff Green and Courtney Lee (coached Lee in Houston). Adelmen also feels that Green needs a different system to flourish.
*Adelmen wants Sullinger and feels he could replace Love. He's a strong rebounding big that can pass and fulfill the rebounding off the bench.

Anyway, I'm having a hard time believing that this could ever happen, but you must consider that it's hard to get anything in return for NBA All Stars when they are about to walk to another team. Orlando knows this, the Cavs know this. Look at what Orlando got for Howard...scraps and picks.

Loves stats this season:
35% from the field, 68% from the line and 22% from 3.
Yikes.


Here's the deal:

Green
Lee
Bass (going somewhere, don't know where, but deal doesn't work without him*)
Sullinger
Two 1st RD Picks (assuming because of time left on contracts and the going rate of stars is generally two 1st RD picks)
$3M


for

Love
Williams
Ridnour


*Maybe Boston doesn't want Williams and he would be combined with Bass? I have no idea, really, just attempting to figure out how this would reasonably work.

This is quoted from a user on another Celtics board.
Anyway, I thought I'd re-post it to gauge the general consensus.

Do you throw in Avery Bradley if it nets us Williams?
I feel we need at least Williams to guard the elite SF's once Pierce goes to the bench.
Giving up Avery leaves us with Terry, Barbosa, Ridnour and Rondo to basically guard the perimeter, which makes me throw up in my mouth a little.
If we can do this and keep Avery it would still be a complete theft/armed robbery from Minny.

But if the supposed feelings that Adelmen has towards Green, Lee and Sully are true, then it could have legs...
Someone also pointed out that it would make sense as to why the Wolves were so high on Verajao and rumors surrounding their crazy desire to get Verajao.
There was also a good trade idea that was a little more realistic...

Boston deals -
Green (8.1)
Lee (5)
Avery Bradley(perhaps)
Sully (1.3)
Melo (1.25)
Barbosa (1.2)
Collins (1.35)
2014 pick (Total = $18.25 million not including Avery)

Boston gets -
Love (13.5)
Barea (4.5)
Josh Howard (1.3)
(Total $19.3)

Minny deals - Love (13.5)
 Williams (4.95)
 Barea (4.5)
 Howard (1.3)
(Total $24.25)

Minny gets -
Green (8.1)
 Varejao (8.4)
 Lee (5)
 Sully (1.3)
 Collins (1.35)
 (Total $24.15)

Cleveland deals -
Varejao (8.4)

Cleveland gets -
D. Williams (4.95)
Avery Bradley (perhaps if needed)
Melo (1.25)
Boston 2014 pick
Barbosa (1.25)
(Total $7.45 not including Avery)

Boston Rotation:
KG, Wilcox
Love, Bass
Pierce, Howard
Bradley (if we are lucky enough to keep him), Terry
Rondo, Barea

Minny Rotation:
Pekovic, Steamer
Varejao, Sully
AK, Green
Shved, Lee
Rubio, Ridnour



Thoughts?
Seems crazy but this is GM Mr Crazy Kahn and Love is p---ed, Derrick Williams is sour and they would love Verajao. Love would have to go right?
If Adelmen likes Green and Lee this could be a goer.
Remember what other teams have gotten in return for guys like Chris Paul and Orlando for Howard etc...
« Last Edit: December 23, 2012, 01:15:28 AM by chambers »
"We are lucky we have a very patient GM that isn't willing to settle for being good and coming close. He wants to win a championship and we have the potential to get there still with our roster and assets."

quoting 'Greg B' on RealGM after 2017 trade deadline.
Read that last line again. One more time.

Re: Minny and Boston Trade. Kevin Love to Boston
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2012, 01:14:53 AM »

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Even Kahn wouldn't do this trade.
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Re: Minny and Boston Trade. Kevin Love to Boston
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2012, 01:19:03 AM »

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Even Kahn wouldn't do this trade.

theres no such thing  ;D

Re: Minny and Boston Trade. Kevin Love to Boston
« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2012, 01:32:56 AM »

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Haha yeah Kahn is infamous.

I don't think Minnesota deals Love this season. They certainly don't deal to Boston. The only piece we have that is as valuable as Love is Rondo and Minny already has Rubio.

I think Love will give his team this year and next to get competitive then maybe if they aren't in the top 4 in the west he superstars them into trading him.

Re: Minny and Boston Trade. Kevin Love to Boston
« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2012, 01:47:15 AM »

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I bet Kahn would take Rondo, Bradley, Terry and Barbosa for Love

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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2012, 02:22:05 AM »

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I bet Kahn would take Rondo, Bradley, Terry and Barbosa for Love

The money works so if Minny adds Rubio and takes Green I do that trade.

Love/Rubio/Williams
for
Rondo/Green/AB/Sully

Re: Minny and Boston Trade. Kevin Love to Boston
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2012, 03:01:30 AM »

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If history serves me right..... Boston is pretty good at getting Kevins from another team.....

Re: Minny and Boston Trade. Kevin Love to Boston
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I bet Kahn would take Rondo, Bradley, Terry and Barbosa for Love

The money works so if Minny adds Rubio and takes Green I do that trade.

Love/Rubio/Williams
for
Rondo/Green/AB/Sully

May as well ask for Pekovic while we are at it :P
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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2012, 03:34:07 AM »

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And after the trade we will be renamed the Boston Timberwolves and the minnesota celtics...

Too much to give up for me.
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And after the trade we will be renamed the Boston Timberwolves and the minnesota celtics...

Too much to give up for me.

You have got to be kidding me. This deal would be an absolute steal if we can pull it off.

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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2012, 05:01:20 AM »

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Josh Howard has a torn ACL and was waived a few days ago.

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Right when Josh Howard appeared to be carving an important niche in the NBA for himself again after battling back from a torn anterior cruciate ligament in his left knee, the 32-year-old forward is right back where he started.

The Timberwolves waived him Thursday after an MRI revealed a torn ACL in Howard's right knee. He was injured Friday at New Orleans. The team initially hoped he would be able to return this season, but as usual for these hard-luck Wolves, the news could not have been worse.

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Never happening.

Re: Minny and Boston Trade. Kevin Love to Boston
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2012, 06:58:40 AM »

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Even Kahn wouldn't do this trade.

He could.
If both sides agreed to screw up their teams and end up with wrecks.

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No chance. Zero. None. Not happening.

Re: Minny and Boston Trade. Kevin Love to Boston
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2012, 10:08:02 AM »

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no chance of us getting Love without a set of special circumsatnces occuring.  Sort of like I never dreamed KG would play for the Celtics . 

Stuff you totally can't predict has to happen for the Celtics to get Love.

Thats why COusins is a unique opportunity, a Lottery player that is obtainable by even the Celtics without tanking.

We can't FORCE trades like LA LAKERS... for players they want.  When they offer trades player seem to feel obligated to say yes and walk though the door.  ANd even if they don';t the LAKERS have ways of making you a Laker like it or not.

HE is my favorite non Celtic player, but uless a miracle happens , it will be many year s, as with KG before him, to  become available (becomes old) before we can pick him up on the Celtics. 

I'm not holding my breath.