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Brandon Bass
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« on: December 20, 2012, 02:39:40 AM » |
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Look guys I know it was only Clev. but the starting lineup looked much better tonight. It was nice seeing KG at PF and floating around everywhere on D. Now lets just get a real Center and we are all set.
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« Reply #1 on: December 20, 2012, 03:21:35 AM » |
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Look guys I know it was only Clev. but the starting lineup looked much better tonight. It was nice seeing KG at PF and floating around everywhere on D. Now lets just get a real Center and we are all set.
What exactly was nice about it? He played great at C. He played great at PF. The Celtics problem is not Garnett. It's everyone else, pretty much.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2012, 06:08:13 AM » |
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Look guys I know it was only Clev. but the starting lineup looked much better tonight. It was nice seeing KG at PF and floating around everywhere on D. Now lets just get a real Center and we are all set.
What exactly was nice about it? He played great at C. He played great at PF.
The Celtics problem is not Garnett. It's everyone else, pretty much.
Perhaps his great play coincided with him getting his legs (knees) back? I dunno, just reaching here.
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2012, 06:58:44 AM » |
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I think KG was good at C too. He was not the problem I am with Koz, on this one. It was the other guys...
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crimson_stallion
Kevin Garnett
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2012, 08:01:51 AM » |
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Look guys I know it was only Clev. but the starting lineup looked much better tonight. It was nice seeing KG at PF and floating around everywhere on D. Now lets just get a real Center and we are all set.
What exactly was nice about it? He played great at C. He played great at PF.
The Celtics problem is not Garnett. It's everyone else, pretty much.
Perhaps his great play coincided with him getting his legs (knees) back? I dunno, just reaching here.
What great play? Didn't he produce about 15 points and 7 rebounds? He's been averaging that all season long...
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2012, 08:04:52 AM » |
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KG plays great at either position. Team has more potential with KG at the 4 and a legit center in the starting line up.
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Chris
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« Reply #6 on: December 20, 2012, 09:02:24 AM » |
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I think this has less to do with moving KG to PF as it does with having someone else who actually plays defense on the court. If they had a defensive oriented PF, they would have gladly kept KG at center, but clearly Doc was fed up with the softness of the other big men defensively.
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« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2012, 09:12:12 AM » |
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What is great about it is it gives the Celtics the flexibility to trade for the best big man available and not worry if he is a C or PF.
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« Reply #8 on: December 20, 2012, 09:21:47 AM » |
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What is great about it is it gives the Celtics the flexibility to trade for the best big man available and not worry if he is a C or PF.
Exactly. The C's need talent, not position.
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Snakehead
Bill Walton 
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« Reply #9 on: December 20, 2012, 09:25:27 AM » |
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Look guys I know it was only Clev. but the starting lineup looked much better tonight. It was nice seeing KG at PF and floating around everywhere on D. Now lets just get a real Center and we are all set.
What exactly was nice about it? He played great at C. He played great at PF.
The Celtics problem is not Garnett. It's everyone else, pretty much.
Exactly right. One of the best players in the league at either position. And he can exploit C mismatches quite well. I like him a lot there. The man is 7' tall.
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« Reply #10 on: December 20, 2012, 09:37:09 AM » |
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I think this has less to do with moving KG to PF as it does with having someone else who actually plays defense on the court. If they had a defensive oriented PF, they would have gladly kept KG at center, but clearly Doc was fed up with the softness of the other big men defensively.
Kenyon Martin!
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« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2012, 09:39:47 AM » |
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I think this has less to do with moving KG to PF as it does with having someone else who actually plays defense on the court. If they had a defensive oriented PF, they would have gladly kept KG at center, but clearly Doc was fed up with the softness of the other big men defensively.
Kenyon Martin!
From 2002! Seriously, I think Martin would be great if he could still play, I am just not so convinced he still can play. We already have one washed up defensive specialist. I am not sure the solution is another one.
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« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2012, 09:43:15 AM » |
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I think this has less to do with moving KG to PF as it does with having someone else who actually plays defense on the court. If they had a defensive oriented PF, they would have gladly kept KG at center, but clearly Doc was fed up with the softness of the other big men defensively.
True that. KG is a constant, not the variable. C, PF, who cares? We're talking about a guy that played point forward throughout his career. He can adjust. Bass is a decent man to man defender and a bad help defender. Wilcox is an average man to man defender and a bad help defender. Sullinger is an average (barely) man to man defender and one of the worst help defenders in the league. And none of them can protect the rim at 6'8" or block a shot, which is coincidentally the only part of defense that KG doesn't do.
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Snakehead
Bill Walton 
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« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2012, 09:48:20 AM » |
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I think this has less to do with moving KG to PF as it does with having someone else who actually plays defense on the court. If they had a defensive oriented PF, they would have gladly kept KG at center, but clearly Doc was fed up with the softness of the other big men defensively.
Kenyon Martin!
From 2002!
Seriously, I think Martin would be great if he could still play, I am just not so convinced he still can play. We already have one washed up defensive specialist. I am not sure the solution is another one.
I'm not sure if anyone who suggests K Mart saw him play last year. Awful.
And none of them can protect the rim at 6'8" or block a shot, which is coincidentally the only part of defense that KG doesn't do.
KG doesn't block a lot of shots anymore but he sure as hell protects the rim.
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« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2012, 09:50:02 AM » |
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I think this has less to do with moving KG to PF as it does with having someone else who actually plays defense on the court. If they had a defensive oriented PF, they would have gladly kept KG at center, but clearly Doc was fed up with the softness of the other big men defensively.
Kenyon Martin!
From 2002!
Seriously, I think Martin would be great if he could still play, I am just not so convinced he still can play. We already have one washed up defensive specialist. I am not sure the solution is another one.
I'm not sure if anyone who suggests K Mart saw him play last year.
Awful.
And none of them can protect the rim at 6'8" or block a shot, which is coincidentally the only part of defense that KG doesn't do.
KG doesn't block a lot of shots anymore but he sure as hell protects the rim.
Clippers don't win a playoff series last year without Kenyon Martin.
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G - Magic Johnson, Gerald Henderson G - Andrew Toney, Freddie Brown, Clint Richardson F - Bernard King, Cedric Maxwell, Bobby Gross F - Larry Nance, Alvan Adams C - Jack Sikma, Marvin Webster
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