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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2012, 11:03:34 PM »

not only a difference
an important difference
and yes of course a legit big is the missing piece.

while you dont have it, please play the deffensive big over the offensive sub par tweeners and offensive i cant guard my player bigs, and see if we can play over .500 ball
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2012, 11:03:43 PM »

amazing you can put a total stiff like Jason COllins into our lineup and it actually makes a difference.  Just goes to show you how flawed this roster is.  We haven't been the same since Shaq hobbled off the court.  Clearly landing a legit big man for some of our assets would make a big improvement.

That's exactly right, and the biggest reason why we should trade our assets to get a legit starting big man. It makes a huge impact on the rest of our starters. An old Shaq, the corpe of JO, even Semih Erden all made a big difference. Imagine what a player like Gortat or even Dalembert would do .
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« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2012, 11:05:08 PM »

and yes hopefully danny will try to get Andy now.

not a Gortat fan .... I wont say no to him either
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« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2012, 11:41:08 PM »

Collins made a difference,  just being in the game and being a person to help clog up the paint.

I feel like Fab Melo should be able to play as well as Collins now, if not better soon.  Melo is a lot more active and threat to block a shot.

The Celtics just FLAT out are missing a center.  Plain and simple.


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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2012, 07:46:15 AM »

I swear to everybody here that if Doc plays Fab instead of Collins in those minutes he will be a better player for us - at least after a 5-10 game window for him to get his feet wet.
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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2012, 08:24:39 AM »

Did you watch the game tonight?  Death to small ball!

We can only hope!
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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2012, 08:36:36 AM »

amazing you can put a total stiff like Jason COllins into our lineup and it actually makes a difference.  Just goes to show you how flawed this roster is.  We haven't been the same since Shaq hobbled off the court.  Clearly landing a legit big man for some of our assets would make a big improvement.
We have exactly 5 assets: Garnett, Pierce, Rondo, Bradley, and Sullinger.  The first 3 aren't going to be moved unless it is an incredibly major deal and the last two don't have a ton of value as Bradley is always hurt and Sullinger is a rookie and neither has a large contract (thus would have to leave with a bad contract shrinking their value even more).  Boston isn't going to be able to add much of anything and is pretty much stuck with this team unless it can add another bad contract/headache. 
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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2012, 08:57:48 AM »

I don't mind Collins but I don't see how anybody could like him.  He's certainly no Perk, in terms of offense, rebounding, passing, toughness, setting picks, or defense.  To even call him a poor man's Perk is a pretty hopeful comparison.

Maybe a change of scenery could jolt our team back where they're supposed to be, but it won't be because of his basketball skills.  Just simply not a starting caliber.
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« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2012, 09:43:53 AM »

I really liked Collins in the starting lineup.  I'm hoping Doc stays with it.
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« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2012, 09:48:28 AM »

It was Cleveland without Verajao. It wasn't that impressive of a win. Nothing out there made me think we found something with the lineup change.
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« Reply #25 on: December 20, 2012, 10:01:06 AM »

It was Cleveland without Verajao. It wasn't that impressive of a win. Nothing out there made me think we found something with the lineup change.

Sure, we beat a bad team, but I saw enough to try it against good teams. 
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« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2012, 11:47:54 AM »

Yeah, I want to see it versus a good team.   Rotations seemed better because we had a back up defender and despite his bad stats he clogged up space.
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« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2012, 11:54:03 AM »

I'd love to. Having two guys, one a shot altering presence, the other is a no nonsense banger will help our interior defense from start of games.
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« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2012, 12:25:32 PM »

It was Cleveland without Verajao. It wasn't that impressive of a win. Nothing out there made me think we found something with the lineup change.

Well Zeller was killing us while Collins was out
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Worse team already beat us this year so I will be happy with positive signs

Not to mention  Roseless bulls beat us.
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« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2012, 12:36:04 PM »

I really liked Collins in the starting lineup.  I'm hoping Doc stays with it.
Collins was HUGE don't care that it was just Cleveland and it goes beyond Varejao missing the game. If you can't see all the little things Collins did to help us win then you're not paying attention.

He set hard screens gave hard fouls when he needed to and was always at the right spot. His length and just big body being down there clogged the lane so it wasn't a layup drill like it feels at times down low. He showed when he had to and changed shots as well.
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