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Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« on: December 19, 2012, 08:42:25 PM »

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He is a poor man's Perk ,I know. But he provides size and clogs the paint. He can also slow down big guys.

But knowing Doc, he will stick with small ball.

Re: Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2012, 09:58:26 PM »

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Did you watch the game tonight?  Death to small ball!

Re: Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2012, 10:01:13 PM »

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And Collins for President!!!

jason Collins is my boy

He clogged the lane almost perfect
helped team D
Play screens
Helped provoke turnovers
Send KG to cover his man
Foul people like a man
and give 6 amazing fouls to the team playing till the 4th

The answer is a LOUD YES!!
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Re: Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2012, 10:02:25 PM »

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it may be because it was cleveland, but the defense looked ALOT better with Collins playing the 5 spot. amazing how ANY defensive center(even collins) makes the D look better

a shame we still dont have darko..I would like him as the starting center alot better

Re: Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 10:09:56 PM »

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it may be because it was cleveland, but the defense looked ALOT better with Collins playing the 5 spot. amazing how ANY defensive center(even collins) makes the D look better

a shame we still dont have darko..I would like him as the starting center alot better

agreed but let's pray collins works out. he is usually hot garbage. I would still like Gortat though. gortat and KG start and wilcox and collins after them. move wilcox to the natural 4 spot.
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Re: Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2012, 10:10:34 PM »

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No way.  Collins benefited from spending all of his time with a red hot Pierce, Terry and Rondo against a horrible Cleveland frontline (and team).  He was frequently too slow to rotate to Zeller's jumper, gave up several offensive boards, struggled to rotate quickly to dribble penetration and fouled 6 times in under 24 minutes, several times for and 1's.

If he's playing a major role on the team when it matters, we are in serious trouble.
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Re: Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2012, 10:11:33 PM »

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it may be because it was cleveland, but the defense looked ALOT better with Collins playing the 5 spot. amazing how ANY defensive center(even collins) makes the D look better

a shame we still dont have darko..I would like him as the starting center alot better

agreed but let's pray collins works out. he is usually hot garbage. I would still like Gortat though. gortat and KG start and wilcox and collins after them. move wilcox to the natural 4 spot.

Darko idk, Gortat most likely as much as Varejao will be more consistant and better than Collins but for now, i am pretty much happy with this Juggernaut old Classy defendder who knows his job and his role
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Re: Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2012, 10:16:03 PM »

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it may be because it was cleveland, but the defense looked ALOT better with Collins playing the 5 spot. amazing how ANY defensive center(even collins) makes the D look better

a shame we still dont have darko..I would like him as the starting center alot better

agreed but let's pray collins works out. he is usually hot garbage. I would still like Gortat though. gortat and KG start and wilcox and collins after them. move wilcox to the natural 4 spot.

Darko idk, Gortat most likely as much as Varejao will be more consistant and better than Collins but for now, i am pretty much happy with this Juggernaut old Classy defendder who knows his job and his role

yep. i am trying to find a glimmer of hope right now like most of us.
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Re: Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2012, 10:19:26 PM »

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it may be because it was cleveland, but the defense looked ALOT better with Collins playing the 5 spot. amazing how ANY defensive center(even collins) makes the D look better

a shame we still dont have darko..I would like him as the starting center alot better

agreed but let's pray collins works out. he is usually hot garbage. I would still like Gortat though. gortat and KG start and wilcox and collins after them. move wilcox to the natural 4 spot.

Darko idk, Gortat most likely as much as Varejao will be more consistant and better than Collins but for now, i am pretty much happy with this Juggernaut old Classy defendder who knows his job and his role

yep. i am trying to find a glimmer of hope right now like most of us.


Theres one:


Pierce +29  Rondo +22 Collins +23

yes thats what deffese do

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Re: Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2012, 10:20:32 PM »

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I'm not a fan, not against most match ups. Against a limited Cleveland PF/C combo it worked well enough I suppose. Maybe if we want to keep KG off a bigger guy to start the game.

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« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2012, 10:22:33 PM »

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I'm not a fan, not against most match ups. Against a limited Cleveland PF/C combo it worked well enough I suppose. Maybe if we want to keep KG off a bigger guy to start the game.

I think this is why Doc did it be4 or after knowing Varejao was out , but he managed Zeller ( who was as hot as anyone tonight)
HE also played great clogging the lane for small guys
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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2012, 10:26:56 PM »

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I'm not a fan, not against most match ups. Against a limited Cleveland PF/C combo it worked well enough I suppose. Maybe if we want to keep KG off a bigger guy to start the game.

I think this is why Doc did it be4 or after knowing Varejao was out , but he managed Zeller ( who was as hot as anyone tonight)
HE also played great clogging the lane for small guys
We gave up 13 offensive rebounds and Zeller scored 20.

I don't see it. Collins played okay defense, but he doesn't do anything else for you. No scoring, no rebounds, no passing, nothing else.

Re: Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2012, 10:36:39 PM »

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Starting Wilcox at either big spot would make more sense.

Collins didn't really actually help our defense that much.  He doesn't rebound, and he can't score.  He's the center version of Scal.  Maybe he adds some things with intangibles and not doing anything really dumb, but that's about it.

Starting Collins just shows how desperate Doc is to try to give this team some size and a new kind of look.  Collins should not get rotation minutes on a healthy, decent team.
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Re: Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2012, 10:39:25 PM »

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I'm not a fan, not against most match ups. Against a limited Cleveland PF/C combo it worked well enough I suppose. Maybe if we want to keep KG off a bigger guy to start the game.

I think this is why Doc did it be4 or after knowing Varejao was out , but he managed Zeller ( who was as hot as anyone tonight)
HE also played great clogging the lane for small guys
We gave up 13 offensive rebounds and Zeller scored 20.

I don't see it. Collins played okay defense, but he doesn't do anything else for you. No scoring, no rebounds, no passing, nothing else.

as I pointed somewhere else, hes a bigger scal without the  offensive power (lol) scal used to have
u know
sometimes its not in the Numbers
pressure, deffense, boxing , positioning. No numbers
as they used to say
untangibles


and I didnt read the Posita comment before posting the Scal part , and yes its an answer to desperation sadly
but right now he fit a role.
And No starting wilcox would not make more sense because he cant deffend like Collins do
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Re: Should Doc play Collins alongside with KG?
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2012, 11:00:14 PM »

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amazing you can put a total stiff like Jason COllins into our lineup and it actually makes a difference.  Just goes to show you how flawed this roster is.  We haven't been the same since Shaq hobbled off the court.  Clearly landing a legit big man for some of our assets would make a big improvement.