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Do we play as good with out Rondo on the floor?
« on: December 19, 2012, 11:44:37 AM »

Offline Diggles

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Can anyone find stats about Rondo on the court?  I know when KG goes out there is a huge difference. 

If the stats say we are better with Rondo off the court, how much better would we be if we traded him for a Center then? 

I would be very interested in a Rondo trade.  I have a love affair with him, and he is a very talented player but I would look long and hard at this.

Rondo for Cousins and Evens from Sacramento.  If your Danny and you are asking about Evens, you at least ask right?

Re: Do we play as good with out Rondo on the floor?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2012, 11:54:08 AM »

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nba.com advanced stats say:
Rondo on court: 4,8 +
Rondo off court: 1,2 -

Re: Do we play as good with out Rondo on the floor?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2012, 11:58:16 AM »

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rising superstar for perennial loser headaches who have never won on the nba level....no thanks

Re: Do we play as good with out Rondo on the floor?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2012, 12:12:48 PM »

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Well if they threw in a couple 1st rounders. I'm just saying if your Danny do you ask? 

Rondo > Evens/Cousins 100% all day but

Celtics w/ Evens/Cousins plus future 1st > Current Celtics??? I think you have to look hard at that...not to mention the $ saved in Payroll. 

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« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2012, 01:01:12 PM »

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Well if they threw in a couple 1st rounders. I'm just saying if your Danny do you ask? 

Rondo > Evens/Cousins 100% all day but

Celtics w/ Evens/Cousins plus future 1st > Current Celtics??? I think you have to look hard at that...not to mention the $ saved in Payroll.

  First rounders aren't going to make us better this year, and I don't think we're at a point where we should be trading players to save payroll.

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« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2012, 01:24:22 PM »

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Simple stats say no.  Eye test says the other guys need to step it up.  Green, Bass, Lee and even Terry have been average at best.  Pierce and KG can only be "big time" in spurts.

Rondo is all that keeps us afloat at times.

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« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2012, 01:28:26 PM »

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If we want to go anywhere in the playoffs then we are better off having Rondo on this team.

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Re: Do we play as good with out Rondo on the floor?
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2012, 09:23:21 PM »

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Yeah definetly as good with him on the bench, and KG too!

HAHAHAHA.

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« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2012, 09:25:08 PM »

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Out of everything that is wrong with this team, are we really going to point to Rondo?

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« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2012, 09:30:03 PM »

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There's a weird statistical anomaly, according to 82games.com

The offense is only +0.3 points per 100 possessions better with Rondo in the game

The defense is actually 2.5 points per 100 possessions worse with Rondo in the game

Overall, the Celtics are 2.2 points per 100 possessions better *without* Rondo

http://www.82games.com/1213/12BOS1.HTM#onoff


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Re: Do we play as good with out Rondo on the floor?
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2012, 09:31:13 PM »

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Out of everything that is wrong with this team, are we really going to point to Rondo?

Isnt that what we do?

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« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2012, 09:45:50 PM »

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There's a weird statistical anomaly, according to 82games.com

The offense is only +0.3 points per 100 possessions better with Rondo in the game

The defense is actually 2.5 points per 100 possessions worse with Rondo in the game

Overall, the Celtics are 2.2 points per 100 possessions better *without* Rondo

http://www.82games.com/1213/12BOS1.HTM#onoff

Probably based off a blowout win when rondo was suspended against a sleepwalking portland team? this anomaly should be up in smoke after tonight.

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« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2012, 10:02:35 PM »

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There's a weird statistical anomaly, according to 82games.com

The offense is only +0.3 points per 100 possessions better with Rondo in the game

The defense is actually 2.5 points per 100 possessions worse with Rondo in the game

Overall, the Celtics are 2.2 points per 100 possessions better *without* Rondo

http://www.82games.com/1213/12BOS1.HTM#onoff

  If Rondo gets the most minutes out of our best players it goes to follow he'll end up with more minutes with the backups, which won't do much for his +/- numbers.

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« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2012, 10:16:44 PM »

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As of about a week or two ago he as a +3 on offense and a -0.5 on defense (ie better on both ends) I believe, something like that when I was looking at it.

C's losing streak by double digits probably killed the on/off for him.

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« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2012, 10:17:45 PM »

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Pierce +29  Rondo +22 Collins +23

yes thats what deffese do

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