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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #30 on: December 18, 2012, 05:04:21 PM »
What Utah needs is a upgrade over at pg. I would offer Rondo for Milsap. Add in whatever is needed to make the numbers work.

Terry
Bradley
Pierce
Milsap
Garnett

Barbosa
Lee
Green
Bass
Wilcox







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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #31 on: December 18, 2012, 05:11:40 PM »
What Utah needs is a upgrade over at pg. I would offer Rondo for Milsap. Add in whatever is needed to make the numbers work.

Terry
Bradley
Pierce
Milsap
Garnett

Barbosa
Lee
Green
Bass
Wilcox
No way rondo for milsap alone.
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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #32 on: December 18, 2012, 05:19:12 PM »
What Utah needs is a upgrade over at pg. I would offer Rondo for Milsap. Add in whatever is needed to make the numbers work.

Terry
Bradley
Pierce
Milsap
Garnett

Barbosa
Lee
Green
Bass
Wilcox
No way rondo for milsap alone.

lol why not? Your getting quality depth in the froncourt because you are not giving up Bass or Green. We would also get better defensively with Terry at the pg and we would get to keep Bradley.


It also works straight up in the trade checker. Its a win-win for both teams.

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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #33 on: December 18, 2012, 05:27:33 PM »
What Utah needs is a upgrade over at pg. I would offer Rondo for Milsap. Add in whatever is needed to make the numbers work.

Terry
Bradley
Pierce
Milsap
Garnett

Barbosa
Lee
Green
Bass
Wilcox
No way rondo for milsap alone.

lol why not? Your getting quality depth in the froncourt because you are not giving up Bass or Green. We would also get better defensively with Terry at the pg and we would get to keep Bradley.


It also works straight up in the trade checker. Its a win-win for both teams.
Terry is 35 (I think) and barbosa is 30. In a couple of years we would have no one at the point, and I don't want Bradley back at point
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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #34 on: December 18, 2012, 05:34:43 PM »
What Utah needs is a upgrade over at pg. I would offer Rondo for Milsap. Add in whatever is needed to make the numbers work.

Terry
Bradley
Pierce
Milsap
Garnett

Barbosa
Lee
Green
Bass
Wilcox
No way rondo for milsap alone.

lol why not? Your getting quality depth in the froncourt because you are not giving up Bass or Green. We would also get better defensively with Terry at the pg and we would get to keep Bradley.


It also works straight up in the trade checker. Its a win-win for both teams.
Terry is 35 (I think) and barbosa is 30. In a couple of years we would have no one at the point, and I don't want Bradley back at point

So whats the problem? draft a point guard. Its easier to draft a good guard than it is to draft a good big.

Besides do you really believe the Celtics are going to meet what Rondo has in mind for his next contract? Its not going to happen.


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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #35 on: December 18, 2012, 05:47:33 PM »
Trading Rondo for an undersized PF who doesn't rebound or block shots particularly well?

Nope. With all his faults, this is a non-starter. I'd give Minesotta Rondo, Sullinger and a pick for Love -- and for all his faults, Rondo should not be tradeable for anything less. Of course, PG is not a need for  the Wolves so this is not happening. But you get the idea.
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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #36 on: December 18, 2012, 05:48:07 PM »
What Utah needs is a upgrade over at pg. I would offer Rondo for Milsap. Add in whatever is needed to make the numbers work.

Terry
Bradley
Pierce
Milsap
Garnett

Barbosa
Lee
Green
Bass
Wilcox
No way rondo for milsap alone.

lol why not? Your getting quality depth in the froncourt because you are not giving up Bass or Green. We would also get better defensively with Terry at the pg and we would get to keep Bradley.


It also works straight up in the trade checker. Its a win-win for both teams.
Terry is 35 (I think) and barbosa is 30. In a couple of years we would have no one at the point, and I don't want Bradley back at point

So whats the problem? draft a point guard. Its easier to draft a good guard than it is to draft a good big.

Besides do you really believe the Celtics are going to meet what Rondo has in mind for his next contract? Its not going to happen.
I agree.
The chance of getting another usuable point guard from a draft /   BIG center types that are quality require Lottery  picks usually.  It would be easier to get a KNOWN good big in trade for Rondo and find anothe point guard...than the other way around.  IMO.

And YES ..!! ROndo will be wanting to double his salary.

Unless we blow up the team or Trade Rondo , I don't see how we get a star quality big.    I'm for bringing in Cousins,  we could never get a draft pick as good as him.     

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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #37 on: December 18, 2012, 06:08:54 PM »
Trading Rondo for an undersized PF who doesn't rebound or block shots particularly well?

Nope. With all his faults, this is a non-starter. I'd give Minesotta Rondo, Sullinger and a pick for Love -- and for all his faults, Rondo should not be tradeable for anything less. Of course, PG is not a need for  the Wolves so this is not happening. But you get the idea.

Milsap is 18# in the NBA in total rebounds.
       is 10# in the NBA in free throws attempts

This is what we need rebounds and fouls on the opposing team. Losing Rondo will be mitigated somewhat by the return of Bradley.

As of right now with 5 guards someone will not be playing.
Both Barbosa and Lee are capable on the court and neither will get much in a trade. So what do you suggest as a alternative?

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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #38 on: December 18, 2012, 06:09:58 PM »
"Bradley must go" sounds like he is cancer and we have to get rid of him...

love milsap but don't want to get rid of Bradley. And yes I am aware of our weakness right now.

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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #39 on: December 18, 2012, 06:19:15 PM »
"Bradley must go" sounds like he is cancer and we have to get rid of him...

love milsap but don't want to get rid of Bradley. And yes I am aware of our weakness right now.

Bradley/Rondo is the future of the Celtics
Rondos has this year and next year left on his contract.
He is making almost 12 million this year and another 12 million next year. Do you believe he will be wiling to resign at or close to the same annual salary in the future?

I don't. He is going to be traded before his new contract becomes a issue.

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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #40 on: December 18, 2012, 07:14:44 PM »
Trading Rondo for an undersized PF who doesn't rebound or block shots particularly well?

Nope. With all his faults, this is a non-starter. I'd give Minesotta Rondo, Sullinger and a pick for Love -- and for all his faults, Rondo should not be tradeable for anything less. Of course, PG is not a need for  the Wolves so this is not happening. But you get the idea.
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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #41 on: December 18, 2012, 07:28:17 PM »
"Bradley must go" sounds like he is cancer and we have to get rid of him...

love milsap but don't want to get rid of Bradley. And yes I am aware of our weakness right now.

Bradley/Rondo is the future of the Celtics
Rondos has this year and next year left on his contract.
He is making almost 12 million this year and another 12 million next year. Do you believe he will be wiling to resign at or close to the same annual salary in the future?

I don't. He is going to be traded before his new contract becomes a issue.

You're wrong.  He has two seasons left on his contract after this year. 

Also, Millsap's going to be a free agent this off-season.  You think he'll be looking for a raise on his current $8.6 million per year deal?
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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #42 on: December 18, 2012, 08:27:55 PM »
Trading Rondo for an undersized PF who doesn't rebound or block shots particularly well?

Nope. With all his faults, this is a non-starter. I'd give Minesotta Rondo, Sullinger and a pick for Love -- and for all his faults, Rondo should not be tradeable for anything less. Of course, PG is not a need for  the Wolves so this is not happening. But you get the idea.

Milsap is 18# in the NBA in total rebounds.
       is 10# in the NBA in free throws attempts

This is what we need rebounds and fouls on the opposing team. Losing Rondo will be mitigated somewhat by the return of Bradley.

As of right now with 5 guards someone will not be playing.
Both Barbosa and Lee are capable on the court and neither will get much in a trade. So what do you suggest as a alternative?

  On alternative is not trading the guy who averaged 17/7/12 in the playoffs for a player that's never going to be a top player on a good team. Whoever told you that the way to improve your team is to trade your best players for slightly above average players was pulling your leg.
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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #43 on: December 19, 2012, 05:10:08 AM »
What Utah needs is a upgrade over at pg. I would offer Rondo for Milsap. Add in whatever is needed to make the numbers work.

Terry
Bradley
Pierce
Milsap
Garnett

Barbosa
Lee
Green
Bass
Wilcox

This is funny. I almost thought you were trolling with this.
Millsap is good. But Rondo is the best pg in the game at the moment, and he's got two more years on an affordable deal.
Absolutely no way. There isn't one GM in the league that agrees to that horrible trade idea. Sorry.
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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #44 on: December 19, 2012, 10:41:53 PM »
What Utah needs is a upgrade over at pg. I would offer Rondo for Milsap. Add in whatever is needed to make the numbers work.

Terry
Bradley
Pierce
Milsap
Garnett

Barbosa
Lee
Green
Bass
Wilcox
No way rondo for milsap alone.

lol why not? Your getting quality depth in the froncourt because you are not giving up Bass or Green. We would also get better defensively with Terry at the pg and we would get to keep Bradley.


  Just an FYI, but watching the Cavs start tonight's game with Kirie Irving standing on the perimeter without the ball so they could have their poor-shooting rookie sg exploit his matchup against Terry is a good indication of how ridiculous your claim that we'd get better defensively with Terry instead of Rondo is. It's not that much more far-fetched that saying we'd improve our defense playing Barbosa instead of Bradley.

 

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