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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #45 on: December 19, 2012, 11:37:53 PM »

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Trade a near superstar PG for an undersized PF who's all energy but not a good rebounder and no shot blocking presence? Why? Just why?
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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #46 on: December 19, 2012, 11:45:17 PM »

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wait, so who is the rim protector when KG is out? wilcox? Your trade still does not solve our glaring problem. a rim protector when KG is out!!

You know I have been on the phone with about 20 NBA teams this week and guess what pretty much every one of them has said...

"Gosh we have this defensive-minded center that we just can't move. We would totally take rotation players and late first round picks for him but not even one team is offering us spit for this 6'11" rim-protector. What I really need is another undersized PF."

Name the defensive center prospect you're talking about who we can deal for. Varejao has been a fun topic lately but he's too expensive. Gortat plays laughable defense. Smith isn't a center. Jefferson isn't really a defensive phenom. Jason Thompson isn't a center. I mean I'm not trying to be a jerk or anything but it's not like teams are lining up to sell low on their reserve center prospects let along a starter.

I think the most likely target for the C's is probably Samuel Dalembert...unfortunately. If he can be had for Bass I do it straight up, if there is some indication that Dalembert is in shape I throw in a 2nd rounder. If it takes some combination of Lee and Sully I want one of their young guys, either Jennings or LRMM.

As for the OP I like Millsap and I want him here. I won't trade AB in any deal for Millsap but I'd move some combination of Bass/Lee/Sully/Melo and any picks that need to go. All of our minimum contracts are on the table too. Consider me in for any trade getting us Millsap while keeping RR/PP/KG/AB.

And WOW is someone serious talking about trading Rondo? Stop taking drugs right now.

Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #47 on: December 19, 2012, 11:48:54 PM »

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an undersized PF who's all energy but not a good rebounder and no shot blocking presence

What is the argument for Millsap not being a good rebounder?
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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #48 on: December 19, 2012, 11:51:15 PM »

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I love Milsap game...but when KG sits , this team is DYING for a interior defensive BIG to protect the rim.

For the way this team is constructed,  it is a must to have a active big , who is tuff inside. 

I think this guy needs to be  A. Varejao.  !!

Just don't think we can get Smith ...yet... and I belive Varejao brings a better game to the Celtics as they are now constructed.



Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #49 on: December 20, 2012, 12:25:05 AM »

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I don't think it is possible to get either Varejao or Smith without at least a likely mid-to-late lottery pick as part of the package.
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Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #50 on: December 20, 2012, 01:22:16 AM »

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Meh.  Millsap is just Sullinger a few years from now.  Don't see any real reason to go out and get him. 

Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #51 on: December 21, 2012, 09:19:42 PM »

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wait, so who is the rim protector when KG is out? wilcox? Your trade still does not solve our glaring problem. a rim protector when KG is out!!

The principle in basketball is easy - outscore the opposing team.

Whether we do that by forcing them to score less (via rim protector method) or by us simply outscoring them (via a player who can put points on the board).

Millsap has historically been a borderline 20/10 player.  If we can get 15-17 PPG from Millsap then we are scoring 5 - 7 points more then we do with Bass out there, and yet Millsap defensively is no worse than Bass.  That means we are better off.

I'm not TOO concerned about center - between them KG and Wilcox are doing a reasonble job.

We are getting killed at PF more than anywhere else.  At PG we have Rondo.  At SG Terry and Bradley.  At SF Pierce and Green (when he's awake).  At Center KG. 

PF it's the one and only position at which we are truly and utterly mediocre.


Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #52 on: December 21, 2012, 09:21:42 PM »

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Meh.  Millsap is just Sullinger a few years from now.  Don't see any real reason to go out and get him.

I'll be sooooooooo pumped if Sullinger is Millsap in a few years.

Re: Keep KG at center, get Paul Millsap NOW! (Sully or Bradley must go)
« Reply #53 on: December 22, 2012, 08:14:22 AM »

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I think we overestimate Utah's willingness to get rid of Millsap just because he is a pending free agent. They can  resign him or do a sign and trade in the summer. This is not like baseball. Millsap will require a lot to get. Probably more than Ainge wants to give.

 

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