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« Reply #60 on: December 17, 2012, 11:03:56 AM » |
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just for kicks and giggles, who says no to this trade? http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cqewvxgRondo, Lee, Sullinger for Love, Rubio
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« Reply #61 on: December 17, 2012, 11:04:23 AM » |
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Right now I'd pull the trigger for Cousins or Love , in a NEW YORK sec. we look so old and near dead
I would not for Love. Good player on a bad team syndrome. Love IMHO does not have the offensive talent to be a go-to scorer for a contending team. He's a volume shooter who puts points on the board via a high number of shot attempts, but he has no post up game and his jump shot is nowhere near as impressive as people seem to believe (check his shooting percentages from three and midrange, you'll see what I mean).
Cousins is IMHO a far more versatile player offensive and is capable of scoring in the post or with the jump shot. He's more athletic then Love and physically stronger as well. Much more upside IMO. I don't believe replacing Rondo with Kevin Love would make this team any better at all.
Wow, Kevin Love would be very interesting. Alongside KG. The offensive punch of those two together. The rebounding upgrade for the team.
The team could start Avery Bradley in Rondo's stead. Maybe Terry alongside him in a two guard backcourt. Very different type of offensive team. A PG centric to a non-PG centric offense overnight. Run the offense through the big men in the high post. Pierce on the wing as a secondary playmaker. Terry as an additional creator off the dribble. Workable.
Anyway ... Minnesota would never trade Love for Rondo. They have Rubio.
Agreed -- likely a fruitless endeavor unless a third team gets involved (who inevitably would want Love over Rondo anyway). By the way, there's a lot of talk in this thread about Rondo being a 'superstar' and a 'top 10 player'. There's also been talk about him as an MVP candidate around the blog. There are a number of reasons why this is a myth, most notably you can't go to him in the 4th quarter -- the combination of poor shooting and inability to make FTs (and therefore go to the basket in crunchtime) being a big one. (Side note: This is a big reason we see those frustrating Pierce heaves at the end of games... Rondo's hesitant to push for more of those shots / plays -- despite all the talk of this now being his team -- because he doesn't really want them.) Rondo is an excellent player, but this thread as I understand it is about his value in the market. And to this point, he would have a very hard time cracking the top 10 players NBA GMs would trade for. Jeff -- Minny says no, but I'd say yes!
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« Reply #62 on: December 17, 2012, 07:33:51 PM » |
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Right now I'd pull the trigger for Cousins or Love , in a NEW YORK sec. we look so old and near dead
I would not for Love. Good player on a bad team syndrome. Love IMHO does not have the offensive talent to be a go-to scorer for a contending team. He's a volume shooter who puts points on the board via a high number of shot attempts, but he has no post up game and his jump shot is nowhere near as impressive as people seem to believe (check his shooting percentages from three and midrange, you'll see what I mean).
Cousins is IMHO a far more versatile player offensive and is capable of scoring in the post or with the jump shot. He's more athletic then Love and physically stronger as well. Much more upside IMO. I don't believe replacing Rondo with Kevin Love would make this team any better at all.
Wow, Kevin Love would be very interesting. Alongside KG. The offensive punch of those two together. The rebounding upgrade for the team.
The team could start Avery Bradley in Rondo's stead. Maybe Terry alongside him in a two guard backcourt. Very different type of offensive team. A PG centric to a non-PG centric offense overnight. Run the offense through the big men in the high post. Pierce on the wing as a secondary playmaker. Terry as an additional creator off the dribble. Workable.
Anyway ... Minnesota would never trade Love for Rondo. They have Rubio.
Agreed -- likely a fruitless endeavor unless a third team gets involved (who inevitably would want Love over Rondo anyway).
By the way, there's a lot of talk in this thread about Rondo being a 'superstar' and a 'top 10 player'. There's also been talk about him as an MVP candidate around the blog.
There are a number of reasons why this is a myth, most notably you can't go to him in the 4th quarter -- the combination of poor shooting and inability to make FTs (and therefore go to the basket in crunchtime) being a big one.
(Side note: This is a big reason we see those frustrating Pierce heaves at the end of games... Rondo's hesitant to push for more of those shots / plays -- despite all the talk of this now being his team -- because he doesn't really want them.)
Rondo is an excellent player, but this thread as I understand it is about his value in the market. And to this point, he would have a very hard time cracking the top 10 players NBA GMs would trade for.
Jeff -- Minny says no, but I'd say yes!
Just curious, who would your top ten be?
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« Reply #63 on: December 17, 2012, 07:51:21 PM » |
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just for kicks and giggles, who says no to this trade?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cqewvxg
Rondo, Lee, Sullinger
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Do I get an ext for Love?
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« Reply #64 on: December 17, 2012, 09:30:49 PM » |
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How about one of these deals with Milwaukee:
Rondo for Jennings, Larry Sanders and Mbah a Moute....or..
Rondo and Lee for Ellis, Sanders and Mbah a Moute ...or...
Rondo and Bass for Ellis, Sanders and Mbah a Moute?
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« Reply #65 on: December 18, 2012, 12:26:19 AM » |
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Not going to trade KG..period....chances of trading PP are slim ..its very unpopular.... Keep Rondo and wait for KG and PP to retire. Then find a NEW star. Or Trade Rondo now for a good Center to make a run with PP and KG , Avery and Sully. I just don't think Bass, Green , Lee are worth anybody significant , but maybe Gortat or Jefferson at best.  Either Trade Rondo ...or keep him and stay a .500 team till KG and PP retire.  Without a trade I see the Celtics stuck in the land of the:LAND of the LOST NBA teams" Maybe Fab Melo will met Aliens who will give him instant great NBA basketball skills
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« Reply #66 on: December 18, 2012, 02:50:24 PM » |
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Jason Thompson, I. Thomas, Tyreke EvanS, and Demarcus Cousins.
Just would you or wouldn't you keep it simple. Let's say Sac loves Rondo and they are into this deal. Would you trade away Super Rajon for that package.
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« Reply #68 on: December 18, 2012, 03:35:59 PM » |
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just for kicks and giggles, who says no to this trade?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cqewvxg
Rondo, Lee, Sullinger
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Love, Rubio
Not the Wolves, unfortunately. I don't think there is anyone they would trade Rubio for right now.
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« Reply #69 on: December 18, 2012, 04:24:14 PM » |
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just for kicks and giggles, who says no to this trade?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cqewvxg
Rondo, Lee, Sullinger
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Love, Rubio
Not the Wolves, unfortunately. I don't think there is anyone they would trade Rubio for right now.
Rubio has to be the most famous average player. Before he set foot on an NBA court the hype surrounding him was absurd. The guy was average in Europe, and judging by his rookie year he will average in the NBA. As far as Love goes I see him as an overrated stat-stuffer. He puts historical number almost every game with little to no impact on the game. His defense also leaves a lot to be desired. Big Baby schooled him last night.
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« Reply #70 on: December 18, 2012, 04:35:39 PM » |
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How about one of these deals with Milwaukee:
Rondo for Jennings, Larry Sanders and Mbah a Moute....or..
Rondo and Lee for Ellis, Sanders and Mbah a Moute ...or...
Rondo and Bass for Ellis, Sanders and Mbah a Moute?
Rondo doesn't net you Jennings plus two players, especially one being Sanders. For the rest, Bucks would not be willing to make a 1-2 out of Rondo and Jennings, so, they'd say no.
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« Reply #71 on: December 18, 2012, 05:05:15 PM » |
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Rondo for Paul Milsap
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« Reply #72 on: December 18, 2012, 05:08:17 PM » |
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How about one of these deals with Milwaukee:
Rondo for Jennings, Larry Sanders and Mbah a Moute....or..
Rondo and Lee for Ellis, Sanders and Mbah a Moute ...or...
Rondo and Bass for Ellis, Sanders and Mbah a Moute?
Rondo doesn't net you Jennings plus two players, especially one being Sanders.
For the rest, Bucks would not be willing to make a 1-2 out of Rondo and Jennings, so, they'd say no.
Dead wrong. Milwaukee would take deal one, then when the papers came through, the whole front office would record their own remake of the "Super Bowl Shuffle" at the Karaoke Bar while doing copious Jagerbombs toasting Danny Ainge, then post it to YouTube. One problem for them: the Cs would never consider it.
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« Reply #73 on: December 18, 2012, 05:15:14 PM » |
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just for kicks and giggles, who says no to this trade?
http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cqewvxg
Rondo, Lee, Sullinger
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Love, Rubio
Not the Wolves, unfortunately. I don't think there is anyone they would trade Rubio for right now.
Rubio has to be the most famous average player. Before he set foot on an NBA court the hype surrounding him was absurd. The guy was average in Europe, and judging by his rookie year he will average in the NBA. As far as Love goes I see him as an overrated stat-stuffer. He puts historical number almost every game with little to no impact on the game. His defense also leaves a lot to be desired. Big Baby schooled him last night.
Yah, tp. They are both overrated in my mind
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« Reply #74 on: December 18, 2012, 05:21:42 PM » |
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Did you guys see Rubio's assist to Steamer the other night? He's a one-of-a-kind passer with great court vision who doesn't shoot very well. He's also very young, with plenty of time to improve. Gee, that sounds like something I've heard a lot the last few years... 
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